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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Cc: Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [BUG nohz]: wrong user and system time accounting
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 17:23:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170403152315.GA4221@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170331231119.2b78eb1f@redhat.com>

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 11:11:19PM -0400, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 01:24:54 +0200
> Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 04:09:10PM -0400, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 17:25:46 -0400
> > > Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:18:17 +0200
> > > > Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >   
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 09:59:54PM +0800, Wanpeng Li wrote:    
> > > > > > 2017-03-30 21:38 GMT+08:00 Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>:      
> > > > > > > If it works, we may want to take that solution, likely less performance sensitive
> > > > > > > than using sched_clock(). In fact sched_clock() is fast, especially as we require it to
> > > > > > > be stable for nohz_full, but using it involves costly conversion back and forth to jiffies.      
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So both Rik and you agree with the skew tick solution, I will try it
> > > > > > tomorrow. Btw, if we should just add random offset to the cpu in the
> > > > > > nohz_full mode or add random offset to all cpus like the codes above?      
> > > > > 
> > > > > Lets just keep it to all CPUs for simplicty.
> > > > > Also please add a comment that explains why we need that skew_tick on nohz_full.    
> > > > 
> > > > I've tried all the test-cases we discussed in this thread with skew_tick=1
> > > > and it worked as expected in bare-metal and KVM guests.
> > > > 
> > > > However, I found a test-case that works in bare-metal but show problems
> > > > in KVM guests. It could something that's KVM specific, or it could be
> > > > something that's harder to reproduce in bare-metal.  
> > > 
> > > After discussing some findings on this issue with Rik, I realized that
> > > we don't add the skew when restarting the tick in tick_nohz_restart().
> > > Adding the offset there seems to solve this problem.  
> > 
> > Are you sure? tick_nohz_restart() doesn't seem to override the initial skew. It
> > always forwards the expiration time on top of the last tick.
> 
> OK, I'll double check. Without my change the bug triggers almost
> instantly with the described reproducer. With my change it didn't
> trig for several minutes (but it does look wrong looking at it now).

Do you observe aligned ticks with trace events (hrtimer_expire_entry)?

You might want to enforce the global clock to trace that:

    echo "global" > /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/trace_clock

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-03 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-23 20:55 [BUG nohz]: wrong user and system time accounting Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-24  0:56 ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-24  1:05   ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-24  1:08     ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-24  1:39       ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-27  5:33   ` lkml
2017-03-24  1:52 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-24  3:56   ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-27  1:56 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-27 17:35   ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-28  7:19     ` Wanpeng Li
     [not found]     ` <20170328132406.7d23579c@redhat.com>
     [not found]       ` <20170328161454.4a5d9e8b@redhat.com>
2017-03-28 21:01         ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-28 21:26           ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-29  9:56             ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-29 12:56               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-28 21:24         ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-28 21:30           ` Luiz Capitulino
     [not found]       ` <20170329131656.1d6cb743@redhat.com>
2017-03-29 20:08         ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-29 22:54           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30 12:57             ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-30  1:58           ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-30 12:40             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30 13:19               ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-30  4:27           ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-30  6:47             ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-30 11:52               ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-30 12:33                 ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-30 13:38               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30 13:59                 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-30 14:18                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30 21:25                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-31 20:09                       ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-31 23:24                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-04-01  3:11                           ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-04-03 15:23                             ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2017-04-03 19:06                               ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-04-04 17:36                                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-04-05 14:26                                   ` Rik van Riel
2017-04-11 11:03                 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-04-11 11:36                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-11 11:43                     ` Wanpeng Li
2017-04-11 14:22               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-12 13:18                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-04-12 14:57                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-12 15:14                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-04-13  4:31                     ` Wanpeng Li
2017-04-13 13:32                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-05-02 10:01                         ` Wanpeng Li
2017-05-15  8:17                           ` Wanpeng Li
2017-06-29 17:22                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30 12:51             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30 13:02               ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-30 13:35                 ` Mike Galbraith
2017-04-03 14:40                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-04-04  7:32                     ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-30 13:44                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
     [not found]         ` <20170329221700.GB23895@lerouge>
2017-03-29 22:46           ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-30  2:14             ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-30 12:27               ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-27 18:38   ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-28  5:28     ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-28 13:44       ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-29 13:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-29 13:14   ` Rik van Riel
2017-03-29 13:23     ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-03-29 21:12       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-30  1:48         ` Luiz Capitulino

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