From: jmondi <jacopo@jmondi.org>
To: Dong Aisheng <dongas86@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
Jacopo Mondi <jacopo+renesas@jmondi.org>,
Chris Brandt <Chris.Brandt@renesas.com>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dong Aisheng <aisheng.dong@nxp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 01/10] pinctrl: generic: Add bi-directional and output-enable
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 13:11:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170615111124.GD22030@w540> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA+hA=RmDEybOkbimtyQBq+vK=6T9GYJn9Jw-GcDy7XxR0b0AA@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Dong,
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 02:25:08PM +0800, Dong Aisheng wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 5:44 PM, jmondi <jacopo@jmondi.org> wrote:
> > Fair enough :)
> >
> > I'll try to keep this short: I don't like "output-enable", and at the
> > same time I don't think "output-high" and "output-low" fit well for
> > this purpose, as they electrically means something different from what
> > our (and IMX) use case is: enabling/disabling input/output
> > buffers internal to pin controller/gpio block HW and not driving a value
> > there.
> >
> > This seems clear to me from the "GPIO mode pitfalls" section of
> > pinctrl.txt documentation examples and from the fact that generic bindings
> > did not expose an "output" flag because if you drive an output line, you
> > reasonably either drive it high or low.
> >
> > Unfortunately I cannot convince myself that the same reasons apply
> > to the input use case. Enabling input on a pin implies the pinctrl/gpio driver
> > has to enable any input buffer required to use that pin as a properly
> > working input line, and enabling an input buffer implies being able to sense
> > the line value from there, so I don't see that much use for "input-buffer-enable"
> > alone.
> >
> > So, even if bindings could look a bit weird as there won't be a direct
> > matching between properties names used to enable input/output buffers,
> > my vote is to add "output-buffer-enable" only, and keep using the
> > already there "input-enable" properties for the input use case.
> >
>
> Yes, it may be a bit weird.
> I'm not pad internal details expert and can't tell much difference between
> output-enable and output-buffer-enable.
> I just feel a bit confuse if only using output-buffer-enable.
Yes it is, and I actually like your proposal, I was just trying to
make sure I was not confusing the property semantic with its
real-world effect.
If no one as different opinions on this, I can send a patch later to
add output-enable only, or since you have almost done it down here you
can do the same resusing what you have proposed below.
>
> If enable both input and output, it becomes:
> pinctrl_xxx: gpios_xxx_grp {
> pins = <
> ULP1_PAD_PTD0__PTD0
> >;
> input-enable;
> output-buffer-enable;
> bias-pull-up;
> };
>
> How about still use output-enable in pairs to input-enable but explain more
> in comments?
> Aslo update 'input-enable' comment to 'enable input buffer'.
> e.g.
> diff --git a/drivers/pinctrl/pinconf-generic.c
> b/drivers/pinctrl/pinconf-generic.c
> index 720a19f..96c83a4 100644
> --- a/drivers/pinctrl/pinconf-generic.c
> +++ b/drivers/pinctrl/pinconf-generic.c
> @@ -172,6 +172,7 @@ static const struct pinconf_generic_params dt_params[] = {
> { "input-schmitt-enable", PIN_CONFIG_INPUT_SCHMITT_ENABLE, 1 },
> { "low-power-disable", PIN_CONFIG_LOW_POWER_MODE, 0 },
> { "low-power-enable", PIN_CONFIG_LOW_POWER_MODE, 1 },
> + { "output-enable", PIN_CONFIG_OUTPUT_ENABLE, 1 },
> { "output-high", PIN_CONFIG_OUTPUT, 1, },
> { "output-low", PIN_CONFIG_OUTPUT, 0, },
> { "power-source", PIN_CONFIG_POWER_SOURCE, 0 },
> diff --git a/include/linux/pinctrl/pinconf-generic.h
> b/include/linux/pinctrl/pinconf-generic.h
> index 7620eb1..d30f4fe 100644
> --- a/include/linux/pinctrl/pinconf-generic.h
> +++ b/include/linux/pinctrl/pinconf-generic.h
> @@ -59,9 +59,9 @@
> * which means it will wait for signals to settle when reading inputs. The
> * argument gives the debounce time in usecs. Setting the
> * argument to zero turns debouncing off.
> - * @PIN_CONFIG_INPUT_ENABLE: enable the pin's input. Note that this does not
> - * affect the pin's ability to drive output. 1 enables input, 0 disables
> - * input.
> + * @PIN_CONFIG_INPUT_ENABLE: enable the pin's input buffer. Note
> that this does
> + * not affect the pin's ability to drive output.
> + * 1 enables input, 0 disables input.
I would not mention the "input buffer" here, as enabling input implies enabling
the buffer if you want to read values from there. Actually I guess
there may be platforms where buffer enabling may be implicit, so I
would leave this out and let drivers handle it internally.
> * @PIN_CONFIG_INPUT_SCHMITT: this will configure an input pin to run in
> * schmitt-trigger mode. If the schmitt-trigger has adjustable hysteresis,
> * the threshold value is given on a custom format as argument when
> @@ -73,6 +73,9 @@
> * operation, if several modes of operation are supported these can be
> * passed in the argument on a custom form, else just use argument 1
> * to indicate low power mode, argument 0 turns low power mode off.
> + * @PIN_CONFIG_OUTPUT_ENABLE: only enable the pin's output buffer, not driving
> + * a value.
> + * 1 enables output buffer, 0 disables output buffer.
> * @PIN_CONFIG_OUTPUT: this will configure the pin as an output. Use argument
> * 1 to indicate high level, argument 0 to indicate low level. (Please
> * see Documentation/pinctrl.txt, section "GPIO mode pitfalls" for a
>
> Or
> invent both input-buffer-enable and output-buffer-enable and
> deprecated input-enable?
>
> Andy,
> how about your comments?
>
> Regards
> Dong Aisheng
>
> > Thanks
> > j
> >
> >>
> >> Yours,
> >> Linus Walleij
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-15 11:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-04-27 8:19 [PATCH v5 00/10] Renesas RZ/A1 pin and gpio controller Jacopo Mondi
2017-04-27 8:19 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] pinctrl: generic: Add bi-directional and output-enable Jacopo Mondi
2017-04-27 14:56 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-04-28 8:32 ` Linus Walleij
2017-04-28 10:09 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-05-07 7:50 ` Linus Walleij
2017-04-28 12:07 ` Chris Brandt
2017-04-28 12:15 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-04-28 13:18 ` Chris Brandt
2017-04-28 14:53 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-04-28 15:16 ` Chris Brandt
2017-04-28 15:37 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-04-28 16:46 ` Chris Brandt
2017-05-07 7:52 ` Linus Walleij
2017-05-08 16:01 ` jmondi
2017-05-08 16:08 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-05-08 17:02 ` Chris Brandt
2017-05-08 18:26 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-05-08 20:05 ` Chris Brandt
2017-05-08 17:25 ` jmondi
2017-05-08 17:47 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-05-09 9:55 ` jmondi
2017-05-08 21:19 ` Linus Walleij
2017-05-09 10:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-05-12 9:00 ` Linus Walleij
2017-05-12 9:04 ` Linus Walleij
2017-05-12 11:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-05-12 12:13 ` Chris Brandt
2017-05-12 12:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-05-12 12:57 ` Chris Brandt
2017-05-12 11:44 ` Chris Brandt
2017-05-23 10:08 ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-23 18:37 ` jmondi
2017-05-29 8:45 ` Linus Walleij
2017-05-29 10:42 ` jmondi
2017-05-30 14:12 ` Chris Brandt
2017-06-09 7:26 ` Dong Aisheng
2017-06-09 7:50 ` jmondi
2017-06-11 21:45 ` Linus Walleij
2017-06-12 9:44 ` jmondi
2017-06-13 6:25 ` Dong Aisheng
2017-06-15 11:11 ` jmondi [this message]
2017-06-19 15:43 ` Dong Aisheng
2017-04-27 8:19 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] pinctrl: generic: Add macros to unpack properties Jacopo Mondi
2017-04-27 8:37 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-28 8:16 ` Linus Walleij
2017-04-28 10:06 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-28 12:49 ` jmondi
2017-04-28 16:23 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-04-27 8:19 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] pinctrl: Renesas RZ/A1 pin and gpio controller Jacopo Mondi
2017-04-27 8:37 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-27 8:19 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] dt-bindings: pinctrl: Add RZ/A1 bindings doc Jacopo Mondi
2017-04-27 8:37 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-28 21:03 ` Rob Herring
2017-04-27 8:19 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] arm: dts: dt-bindings: Add Renesas RZ/A1 pinctrl header Jacopo Mondi
2017-04-27 8:38 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-28 5:19 ` Simon Horman
2017-04-27 8:19 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] arm: dts: r7s72100: Add pin controller node Jacopo Mondi
2017-04-27 8:19 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] arm: dts: genmai: Add SCIF2 pin group Jacopo Mondi
2017-04-28 5:21 ` Simon Horman
2017-04-27 8:19 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] arm: dts: genmai: Add RIIC2 " Jacopo Mondi
2017-04-27 8:19 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] arm: dts: genmai: Add user led device nodes Jacopo Mondi
2017-04-27 8:19 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] arm: dts: genmai: Add ethernet pin group Jacopo Mondi
2017-04-27 9:56 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-27 10:48 ` Chris Brandt
2017-04-28 5:22 ` Simon Horman
2017-04-28 7:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-28 14:48 ` Chris Brandt
2017-05-05 12:06 ` Linus Walleij
2017-05-05 12:20 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-05-05 12:45 ` Chris Brandt
2017-05-11 13:48 ` Linus Walleij
2017-04-28 8:49 ` Linus Walleij
2017-04-28 13:50 ` Chris Brandt
2017-04-27 8:42 ` [PATCH v5 00/10] Renesas RZ/A1 pin and gpio controller Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-28 5:22 ` Simon Horman
2017-04-28 7:24 ` jmondi
2017-04-28 7:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-28 7:31 ` Simon Horman
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