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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Sai Praneeth Prakhya <sai.praneeth.prakhya@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	joeyli <jlee@suse.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Neri, Ricardo" <ricardo.neri@intel.com>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
	"Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] x86/efi: Use efi_switch_mm() rather than manually twiddling with cr3
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 12:03:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170816110321.GC17270@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170816100709.GG12845@arm.com>

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 11:07:10AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 10:53:38AM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 10:31:12AM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > > (+ Mark, Will)
> > > 
> > > On 15 August 2017 at 22:46, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Sai Praneeth Prakhya
> > > > <sai.praneeth.prakhya@intel.com> wrote:
> > > >> +/*
> > > >> + * Makes the calling kernel thread switch to/from efi_mm context
> > > >> + * Can be used from SetVirtualAddressMap() or during efi runtime calls
> > > >> + * (Note: This routine is heavily inspired from use_mm)
> > > >> + */
> > > >> +void efi_switch_mm(struct mm_struct *mm)
> > > >> +{
> > > >> +       struct task_struct *tsk = current;
> > > >> +
> > > >> +       task_lock(tsk);
> > > >> +       efi_scratch.prev_mm = tsk->active_mm;
> > > >> +       if (efi_scratch.prev_mm != mm) {
> > > >> +               mmgrab(mm);
> > > >> +               tsk->active_mm = mm;
> > > >> +       }
> > > >> +       switch_mm(efi_scratch.prev_mm, mm, NULL);
> > > >> +       task_unlock(tsk);
> > > >> +
> > > >> +       if (efi_scratch.prev_mm != mm)
> > > >> +               mmdrop(efi_scratch.prev_mm);
> > > >
> > > > I'm confused.  You're mmdropping an mm that you are still keeping a
> > > > pointer to.  This is also a bit confusing in the case where you do
> > > > efi_switch_mm(efi_scratch.prev_mm).
> > > >
> > > > This whole manipulation seems fairly dangerous to me for another
> > > > reason -- you're taking a user thread (I think) and swapping out its
> > > > mm to something that the user in question should *not* have access to.
> > > > What if a perf interrupt happens while you're in the alternate mm?
> > > > What if you segfault and dump core?  Should we maybe just have a flag
> > > > that says "this cpu is using a funny mm", assert that the flag is
> > > > clear when scheduling, and teach perf, coredumps, etc not to touch
> > > > user memory when the flag is set?
> > > 
> > > It appears we may have introduced this exact issue on arm64 and ARM by
> > > starting to run the UEFI runtime services with interrupts enabled.
> > > (perf does not use NMI on ARM, so the issue did not exist beforehand)
> > > 
> > > Mark, Will, any thoughts?
> > 
> > Yup, I can cause perf to take samples from the EFI FW code, so that's
> > less than ideal.
> 
> But that should only happen if you're profiling EL1, right, which needs
> root privileges? (assuming the skid issue is solved -- not sure what
> happened to those patches after they broke criu).

I *think* that only needs perf_event_paranoid < 1, rather than root.

It's certianly not accessible by default to most users (e.g. my Ubuntu
fs sets this to 2, and IIRC Debian go to a much more stringent
non-upstream paranoid level).
 
> > The "funny mm" flag sounds like a good idea to me, though given recent
> > pain with sampling in the case of skid, I don't know exactly what we
> > should do if/when we take an overflow interrupt while in EFI.
> 
> I don't think special-casing perf interrupts is the right thing to do here.
> If we're concerned about user-accesses being made off the back of interrupts
> taken whilst in EFI, then we should probably either swizzle back in the
> user page table on the IRQ path or postpone handling it until we're done
> with the firmware.

Doing that for every IRQ feels odd, especially as the result would be
sampling something that wasn't executed, potentially repeatedly, giveing
bogus info.

> Having a flag feels a bit weird: would the uaccess routines return
> -EFAULT if it's set?

I'd expect we'd abort at a higher level, not taking any sample. i.e.
we'd have the core overflow handler check in_funny_mm(), and if so, skip
the sample, as with the skid case.

Thanks,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-16 11:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-15 19:18 [PATCH 0/3] Use mm_struct and switch_mm() instead of manually Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 1/3] efi: Use efi_mm in x86 as well as ARM Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/efi: Replace efi_pgd with efi_mm.pgd Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/efi: Use efi_switch_mm() rather than manually twiddling with cr3 Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-15 21:46   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-16  0:23     ` Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-16  0:47       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-16  9:31     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-16  9:53       ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-16 10:07         ` Will Deacon
2017-08-16 11:03           ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2017-08-16 12:57             ` Matt Fleming
2017-08-16 16:14               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-15 22:35                 ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-17 10:35                   ` Will Deacon
2017-08-17 15:52                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-21 10:33                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-21 13:56                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-21 14:08                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-21 15:23                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-21 15:59                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-21 16:08                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-23 22:52                               ` Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-25 15:13                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-21 17:24                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-25  2:36     ` Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-25 15:13       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-17  0:06 [PATCH 3/3] x86/efi: Use efi_switch_mm() rather than manually twiddling with %cr3 Sai Praneeth Prakhya

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