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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Sai Praneeth Prakhya <sai.praneeth.prakhya@intel.com>,
	"linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	joeyli <jlee@suse.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Neri, Ricardo" <ricardo.neri@intel.com>,
	"Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] x86/efi: Use efi_switch_mm() rather than manually twiddling with cr3
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 06:56:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E5C753C8-1B92-4B4F-B95D-32DCC5C0AF5F@amacapital.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170821103359.jt2xf2cx5wxjldau@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>



> On Aug 21, 2017, at 3:33 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 08:52:38AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 3:35 AM, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> wrote:
> 
>>> I'm still concerned that we're treating perf specially here -- are we
>>> absolutely sure that nobody else is going to attempt user accesses off the
>>> back of an interrupt?
>> 
>> Reasonably sure?  If nothing else, an interrupt taken while mmap_sem()
>> is held for write that tries to access user memory is asking for
>> serious trouble.  There are still a few callers of pagefault_disable()
>> and copy...inatomic(), though.
> 
> I'm not immediately seeing how holding mmap_sem for writing is a
> problem.
> 
>>> If not, then I'd much prefer a solution that catches
>>> anybody doing that with the EFI page table installed, rather than trying
>>> to play whack-a-mole like this.
>> 
>> Using a kernel thread solves the problem for real.  Anything that
>> blindly accesses user memory in kernel thread context is terminally
>> broken no matter what.
> 
> So perf-callchain doesn't do it 'blindly', it wants either:
> 
> - user_mode(regs) true, or
> - task_pt_regs() set.
> 
> However I'm thinking that if the kernel thread has ->mm == &efi_mm, the
> EFI code running could very well have user_mode(regs) being true.
> 
> intel_pmu_pebs_fixup() OTOH 'blindly' assumes that the LBR addresses are
> accessible. It bails on error though. So while its careful, it does
> attempt to access the 'user' mapping directly. Which should also trigger
> with the EFI code.
> 
> And I'm not seeing anything particularly broken with either. The PEBS
> fixup relies on the CPU having just executed the code, and if it could
> fetch and execute the code, why shouldn't it be able to fetch and read?

There are two ways this could be a problem.  One is that u privileged user apps shouldn't be able to read from EFI memory.  The other is that, if EFI were to have IO memory mapped at a "user" address, perf could end up reading it.

> (eXecute implies Read assumed). And like said, it if triggers a fault,
> it bails, no worries.
> 
> It really doesn't care if the task is a kernel thread or not. Same for
> the unwinder, if we get an interrupt register set that points into
> 'userspace' we try and unwind it.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-21 13:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-15 19:18 [PATCH 0/3] Use mm_struct and switch_mm() instead of manually Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 1/3] efi: Use efi_mm in x86 as well as ARM Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/efi: Replace efi_pgd with efi_mm.pgd Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/efi: Use efi_switch_mm() rather than manually twiddling with cr3 Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-15 21:46   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-16  0:23     ` Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-16  0:47       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-16  9:31     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-16  9:53       ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-16 10:07         ` Will Deacon
2017-08-16 11:03           ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-16 12:57             ` Matt Fleming
2017-08-16 16:14               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-15 22:35                 ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-17 10:35                   ` Will Deacon
2017-08-17 15:52                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-21 10:33                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-21 13:56                         ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2017-08-21 14:08                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-21 15:23                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-21 15:59                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-21 16:08                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-23 22:52                               ` Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-25 15:13                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-21 17:24                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-25  2:36     ` Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-25 15:13       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-17  0:06 [PATCH 3/3] x86/efi: Use efi_switch_mm() rather than manually twiddling with %cr3 Sai Praneeth Prakhya

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