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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	kernel-team@fb.com, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [v7 5/5] mm, oom: cgroup v2 mount option to disable cgroup-aware OOM killer
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 10:42:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170906084242.l4rcx6n3hdzxvil6@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170905191609.GA19687@castle.dhcp.TheFacebook.com>

On Tue 05-09-17 20:16:09, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 05, 2017 at 05:12:51PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
> > > Then we should probably hide corresponding
> > > cgroup interface (oom_group and oom_priority knobs) by default,
> > > and it feels as unnecessary complication and is overall against
> > > cgroup v2 interface design.
> > 
> > Why. If we care enough, we could simply return EINVAL when those knobs
> > are written while the corresponding strategy is not used.
> 
> It doesn't look as a nice default interface.

I do not have a strong opinion on this. A printk_once could explain why
the knob is ignored and instruct the admin how to enable the feature
completely.
 
> > > > I think we should instead go with
> > > > oom_strategy=[alloc_task,biggest_task,cgroup]
> > > 
> > > It would be a really nice interface; although I've no idea how to implement it:
> > > "alloc_task" is an existing sysctl, which we have to preserve;
> > 
> > I would argue that we should simply deprecate and later drop the sysctl.
> > I _strongly_ suspect anybody is using this. If yes it is not that hard
> > to change the kernel command like rather than select the sysctl.
> 
> I agree. And if so, why do we need a new interface for an useless feature?

Well, I won't be opposed just deprecating the sysfs and only add a
"real" kill-allocate strategy if somebody explicitly asks for it.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-06  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-04 14:21 [v7 0/5] cgroup-aware OOM killer Roman Gushchin
2017-09-04 14:21 ` [v7 1/5] mm, oom: refactor the oom_kill_process() function Roman Gushchin
2017-09-05 13:34   ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-04 14:21 ` [v7 2/5] mm, oom: cgroup-aware OOM killer Roman Gushchin
2017-09-05 14:57   ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-05 20:23     ` Roman Gushchin
2017-09-06  8:31       ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-06 12:57         ` Roman Gushchin
2017-09-06 13:22           ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-06 13:41             ` Roman Gushchin
2017-09-06 14:10               ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-06  8:34       ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-06 12:33         ` Roman Gushchin
2017-09-07 16:18   ` Christopher Lameter
2017-09-11  8:49     ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-04 14:21 ` [v7 3/5] mm, oom: introduce oom_priority for memory cgroups Roman Gushchin
2017-09-04 14:21 ` [v7 4/5] mm, oom, docs: describe the cgroup-aware OOM killer Roman Gushchin
2017-09-04 14:21 ` [v7 5/5] mm, oom: cgroup v2 mount option to disable " Roman Gushchin
2017-09-04 17:32   ` Shakeel Butt
2017-09-04 17:51     ` Roman Gushchin
2017-09-05 13:44   ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-05 14:30     ` Roman Gushchin
2017-09-05 15:12       ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-05 19:16         ` Roman Gushchin
2017-09-06  8:42           ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-09-06 17:40             ` Roman Gushchin
2017-09-06 17:59               ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-06 20:59               ` David Rientjes
2017-09-07 14:43                 ` Christopher Lameter
2017-09-07 14:52                   ` Roman Gushchin
2017-09-07 15:03                     ` Christopher Lameter
2017-09-07 16:42                       ` Roman Gushchin
2017-09-07 17:03                         ` Christopher Lameter
2017-09-07 21:55                   ` David Rientjes
2017-09-07 16:21         ` Christopher Lameter
2017-09-05 21:53     ` Johannes Weiner
2017-09-06  8:28       ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-07 16:14         ` Johannes Weiner
2017-09-11  9:05           ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-11 12:50             ` Roman Gushchin
2017-09-07 16:27         ` Christopher Lameter
2017-09-07 22:03           ` David Rientjes
2017-09-08 21:07             ` Christopher Lameter
2017-09-09  8:45               ` David Rientjes

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