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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RT] arm*: disable NEON in kernel mode
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 18:39:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171201173943.5mnr7zkr4axxgpfx@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171201173120.GL10595@n2100.armlinux.org.uk>

On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 05:31:20PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 06:14:58PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Well, PREEMPT cares about that too.
> 
> Preempt may care, but it's the hit you take to use neon in the kernel.
> The neon register set shares with the FPU, so preempting during that
> path means that the normal FPU register saving would corrupt the
> already saved user FPU context - and even worse would result in the
> kernel's crypto function register contents being leaked to userspace.

Same thing on x86.

> If you care about preempt deeply, the only solution is to avoid using
> kernel mode neon.

Not quite, you can write the code such that it drops out of neon mode
regularly to allow preemption.

So setup a crypto block, enter neon, transform the block, drop out of
neon, rinse repeat.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-01 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-30 14:22 [PATCH RT] crypto: limit more FPU-enabled sections Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-11-30 14:30 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 10:43   ` [PATCH RT] arm*: disable NEON in kernel mode Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 13:45     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 14:18       ` Mark Rutland
2017-12-01 14:36         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 15:03           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-01 17:58             ` Dave Martin
2017-12-01 18:08               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-12-01 18:24                 ` Dave Martin
2017-12-01 19:20                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-12-04  9:21                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 17:14           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-01 17:31             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-12-01 17:39               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2017-11-30 15:19 ` [PATCH RT] crypto: limit more FPU-enabled sections Steven Rostedt
2017-11-30 15:22   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 10:44     ` [PATCH RT v2] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 11:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-01 13:32         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 13:44           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-01 13:50             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-12-01 14:03               ` [PATCH RT v3] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-11-30 15:29 ` [PATCH RT] " Steven Rostedt
2017-11-30 15:41   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-11-30 16:18     ` Steven Rostedt

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