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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Arjan Van De Ven <arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Asit Mallick <asit.k.mallick@intel.com>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 20/24] objtool: Another static block fail
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 21:12:21 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180131031221.7k2igskvrpsphc2u@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180130095653.GZ2269@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 10:56:53AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 04:52:53PM -0600, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 04:25:59PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > I've observed GCC generate:
> > > 
> > >   sym:
> > >      NOP/JMP 1f	(static_branch)
> > >      JMP 2f
> > >   1: /* crud */
> > >      JMP 3f
> > >   2: /* other crud */
> > > 
> > >   3: RETQ
> > > 
> > > 
> > > This means we need to follow unconditional jumps; be conservative and
> > > only follow if its a unique jump.
> > > 
> > > (I've not yet figured out which CONFIG option is responsible for this,
> > >  a normal defconfig build does not generate crap like this)
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
> > 
> > Any chance we can just add a compiler barrier to the assertion macro and
> > avoid all this grow_static_blocks() mess?  It seems a bit... fragile.
> 
> It is all rather unfortunate yes.. :/ I've tried to keep the grow stuff
> as conservative as possible while still covering all the weirdness I
> found. And while it was great fun, I do agree it would be much better to
> not have to do this.

The more I look at this patch, and the previous one, the less sure I am
about this idea.  (This isn't a comment about the code, just some
general uneasiness about the unpredictable GCC behavior we're trying to
constrain, and whether it's worth the pain.)

Covering all the corner cases is complicated, and it might get even more
complicated with future compiler optimizations.

What if we *only* use the assertions in places that really need them,
like the IBRS checks?  Would that allow us to simplify and drop these
last two (or three) patches? 

Or, maybe we should just forget the whole thing and just stick with the
dynamic IBRS checks with lfence.  Yes, it's less ideal for the kernel,
but adding these acrobatics to objtool also has a cost.

-- 
Josh

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-31  3:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-23 15:25 [PATCH 00/24] objtool: retpoline and asm-goto validation Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 01/24] objtool: Use existing global variables for options Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 02/24] objtool: Add retpoline validation Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 18:21   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-26  9:54   ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 03/24] x86/paravirt: Annotate indirect calls Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-25 10:02   ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 10:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-25 10:26       ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-25 10:52         ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 11:35           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-26  9:57             ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-29 17:58   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-29 18:09     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-29 18:17     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-29 18:38   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-29 19:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-30 16:02       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-31  4:13         ` [PATCH] x86/paravirt: Remove 'noreplace-paravirt' cmdline option Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-31  5:59           ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-31  9:42           ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 04/24] x86,nospec: Annotate indirect calls/jumps Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-26 10:19   ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-29 17:44     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 05/24] x86: Annotate indirect jump in head_64.S Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-26 10:24   ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 06/24] x86,kvm: Fix indirect calls in emulator Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 20:28   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-23 20:48     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-24 10:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-24 10:43         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-25  9:34           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-25  9:49             ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 10:57             ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 07/24] x86,vmx: Fix indirect call Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-25  9:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 08/24] x86,sme: Annotate " Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-26 10:37   ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-29 17:49     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-29 17:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-31  9:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-31 15:04       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-31 16:00         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 09/24] jump_label: Add branch hints to static_branch_{un,}likely() Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-24 18:46   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 10/24] sched: Optimize ttwu_stat() Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 11/24] x86: Reindent _static_cpu_has Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 12/24] x86: Update _static_cpu_has to use all named variables Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-25 19:31   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 13/24] objtool: Implement base jump_assert support Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-26 10:45   ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 14/24] x86: Add a type field to alt_instr Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 15/24] x86: Annotate static_cpu_has alternative Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 16/24] objtool: Implement jump_assert for _static_cpu_has() Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 17/24] objtool: Introduce special_type Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 18/24] objtool: More complex static jump implementation Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 19/24] objtool: Even more complex static block checks Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH 20/24] objtool: Another static block fail Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-29 22:52   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-30  9:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-31  3:12       ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2018-01-31 10:01         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-31 10:07           ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-31 10:27             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:26 ` [PATCH 21/24] objtool: Skip static assert when KCOV/KASAN Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:26 ` [PATCH 22/24] x86/jump_label: Implement arch_static_assert() Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:26 ` [PATCH 23/24] x86: Force asm-goto Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:26 ` [PATCH 24/24] x86: Remove FAST_FEATURE_TESTS Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:42 ` [PATCH 00/24] objtool: retpoline and asm-goto validation Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-23 15:57   ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-23 16:03     ` Peter Zijlstra

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