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From: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
To: Valentin Vidic <Valentin.Vidic@CARNet.hr>
Cc: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	<linux-block@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<stable@vger.kernel.org>, <drbd-user@lists.linbit.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xen-blkback: Switch to closed state after releasing the backing device
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 09:15:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180907071530.te5dxdvg4zqgqscj@mac.bytemobile.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180906221929.GZ26705@gavran.carpriv.carnet.hr>

On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 12:19:29AM +0200, Valentin Vidic wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 06:29:32PM +0200, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 06:28:01PM +0200, Valentin Vidic wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 01:35:15PM +0200, Valentin Vidic wrote:
> > > > > AFAICT, this will cause the backend to never switch to 'Closed' state
> > > > > until the toolstack sets online to 0, which is not good IMO.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If for example a frontend decides to close a device, the backend will
> > > > > stay in state 'Closing' until the toolstack actually removes the disk
> > > > > by setting online to 0.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This will prevent resetting blk connections, as blkback will refuse to
> > > > > switch to state XenbusStateInitWait unless it's at XenbusStateClosed
> > > > > (see the XenbusStateInitialising case in frontend_changed), which will
> > > > > never be reached with your patch.
> > > 
> > > Would it be possible to call xen_vbd_free before the state change?
> > > 
> > >         case XenbusStateClosed:
> > >                 xen_blkif_disconnect(be->blkif);
> > >                 xen_vbd_free(&be->blkif->vbd);
> > >                 xenbus_switch_state(dev, XenbusStateClosed);
> > 
> > I think that will break reconnection, since xen_vbd_create is only
> > called after hotplug script execution is performed (which happens only
> > once at device attachment), but not when DomU changes frontend
> > state.
> > 
> > If you want to perform this xen_vbd_free you will also have to move
> > the xen_vbd_create call AFAICT, to a place that's also called when
> > reconnecting a device. Note that I could be wrong, so it might be
> > worth a shot to try different approaches since the blkback code is
> > quite tangled and I might miss something.
> 
> It seems like the Closed state is not a good point to call the remove
> script since the device could go back from Closed to Connected.
> 
> Maybe it would help to introduce a new final state (7 = XenbusStateFree
> or XenbusStateRemove) that would be set after xen_vbd_free to let the
> userspace know it is safe to run the remove script?

I'm not sure that's a good idea, there are a lot of backends (apart
from blkback), and the tools won't know whether a specific backend
supports such state or not. Also the current protocol and states are
shared between all the Xen PV devices, so new additions should be
considered very carefully.

IMO the best options are either calling vbd_free/vbd_create at proper
stages in blkback or changing the hotplug script so it waits for the
device to have no open clients.

Thanks, Roger.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-07  7:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-29  6:52 [PATCH] xen-blkback: Switch to closed state after releasing the backing device Valentin Vidic
2018-08-29  8:16 ` Juergen Gross
2018-08-29  8:27   ` Valentin Vidic
2018-08-29  8:43     ` Juergen Gross
2018-08-29  9:23       ` Valentin Vidic
2018-08-29  9:29         ` Juergen Gross
2018-09-05 10:36 ` Roger Pau Monné
2018-09-05 16:27   ` Valentin Vidic
2018-09-06 16:14     ` Roger Pau Monné
2018-09-06 22:03       ` Valentin Vidic
2018-09-07 12:03     ` [DRBD-user] " Lars Ellenberg
2018-09-07 12:13       ` Valentin Vidic
2018-09-07 13:28         ` Lars Ellenberg
2018-09-07 16:45           ` Valentin Vidic
2018-09-07 17:14             ` Valentin Vidic
2018-09-08  7:34               ` Valentin Vidic
2018-09-10 12:45                 ` Lars Ellenberg
2018-09-10 13:22                   ` Valentin Vidic
2018-09-10 15:00                     ` Roger Pau Monné
2018-09-10 16:18                       ` Valentin Vidic
2018-09-13 15:08                         ` Roger Pau Monné
2018-09-14 11:49                           ` Valentin Vidic
2018-09-14 16:18                             ` Roger Pau Monné
     [not found]   ` <20180905113515.GU26705@gavran.carpriv.carnet.hr>
2018-09-05 16:28     ` Valentin Vidic
2018-09-06 16:29       ` Roger Pau Monné
2018-09-06 22:19         ` Valentin Vidic
2018-09-07  7:15           ` Roger Pau Monné [this message]
2018-09-07  7:23             ` Valentin Vidic
2018-09-07  7:54               ` Roger Pau Monné
2018-09-07 10:20                 ` Valentin Vidic
2018-09-07 10:43                   ` Roger Pau Monné
2018-09-07 11:15                     ` Valentin Vidic

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