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From: Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] exit: kill struct waitid_info
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 00:01:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190724220122.ngf6arhl7gqcnwzf@brauner.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjOLjnZdZBSDwNbaWp3uGLGQkgxe-2HmNG5gE4TLbED_w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 10:37:34AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 7:47 AM Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io> wrote:
> >
> > The code here uses a struct waitid_info to catch basic information about
> > process exit including the pid, uid, status, and signal that caused the
> > process to exit. This information is then stuffed into a struct siginfo
> > for the waitid() syscall. That seems like an odd thing to do. We can
> > just pass down a siginfo_t struct directly which let's us cleanup and
> > simplify the whole code quite a bit.
> 
> Ack. Except I'd like the commit message to explain where this comes
> from instead of that "That seems like an odd thing to do".

I'll respin and will add an explanation based on the info you gave
below. Thanks for providing the background on that!

Christian

> 
> The _original_ reason for "struct waitid_info" was that "siginfo_t" is
> huge because of all the insane padding that various architectures do.
> 
> So it was introduced by commit 67d7ddded322 ("waitid(2): leave copyout
> of siginfo to syscall itself") very much to avoid stack usage issues.
> And I quote:
> 
>     collect the information needed for siginfo into
>     a small structure (waitid_info)
> 
> simply because "sigset_t" was big.
> 
> But that size came from the explicit "pad it out to 128 bytes for
> future expansion that will never happen", and the kernel using the
> same exact sigset_t that was exposed to user space.
> 
> Then in commit 4ce5f9c9e754 ("signal: Use a smaller struct siginfo in
> the kernel") we got rid of the insane padding for in-kernel use,
> exactly because it causes issues like this.
> 
> End result: that "struct waitid_info" no longer makes sense. It's not
> appreciably smaller than kernel_siginfo_t is today, but it made sense
> at the time.
> 
>                  Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-24 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-24 14:46 [PATCH 0/5] pidfd: waiting on processes through pidfds Christian Brauner
2019-07-24 14:46 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] exit: kill struct waitid_info Christian Brauner
2019-07-24 17:37   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-07-24 22:01     ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2019-07-25 12:46     ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-26  8:01       ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-26 11:59         ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-26 12:37           ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-25  9:40   ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-07-25 10:07     ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-24 14:46 ` [PATCH 2/5] pidfd: add pidfd_wait() Christian Brauner
2019-07-24 17:45   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-07-24 17:50     ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-24 17:52       ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-25 14:34     ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-25 10:16   ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-07-25 10:21     ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-26  8:19   ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-26  8:24     ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-26  9:57       ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-24 14:46 ` [PATCH 3/5] arch: wire-up pidfd_wait() Christian Brauner
2019-07-24 14:46 ` [PATCH 4/5] pidfd: add CLONE_WAIT_PID Christian Brauner
2019-07-24 18:14   ` Jann Horn
2019-07-24 18:27     ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-24 19:07       ` Jann Horn
2019-07-24 19:10         ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-25 10:11           ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-25 10:30         ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-07-25 10:36           ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-25 10:35   ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-07-25 10:40     ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-25 11:25       ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-07-25 11:41         ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-25 11:43         ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-07-25 12:26           ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-25 16:13             ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-07-25 16:56               ` Christian Brauner
2019-07-25 16:57             ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-07-24 14:46 ` [PATCH 5/5] pidfd: add pidfd_wait tests Christian Brauner

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