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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@ezchip.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Kirill Tkhai <tkhai@yandex.ru>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] task: RCUify the assignment of rq->curr
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2019 01:02:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190920230247.GA6449@lenoir> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ftkzdpjd.fsf_-_@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 07:35:02AM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> 
> The current task on the runqueue is currently read with rcu_dereference().
> 
> To obtain ordinary rcu semantics for an rcu_dereference of rq->curr it needs
> to be paird with rcu_assign_pointer of rq->curr.  Which provides the
> memory barrier necessary to order assignments to the task_struct
> and the assignment to rq->curr.
> 
> Unfortunately the assignment of rq->curr in __schedule is a hot path,
> and it has already been show that additional barriers in that code
> will reduce the performance of the scheduler.  So I will attempt to
> describe below why you can effectively have ordinary rcu semantics
> without any additional barriers.
> 
> The assignment of rq->curr in init_idle is a slow path called once
> per cpu and that can use rcu_assign_pointer() without any concerns.
> 
> As I write this there are effectively two users of rcu_dereference on
> rq->curr.  There is the membarrier code in kernel/sched/membarrier.c
> that only looks at "->mm" after the rcu_dereference.  Then there is
> task_numa_compare() in kernel/sched/fair.c.  My best reading of the
> code shows that task_numa_compare only access: "->flags",
> "->cpus_ptr", "->numa_group", "->numa_faults[]",
> "->total_numa_faults", and "->se.cfs_rq".
> 
> The code in __schedule() essentially does:
> 	rq_lock(...);
> 	smp_mb__after_spinlock();
> 
> 	next = pick_next_task(...);
> 	rq->curr = next;
> 
> 	context_switch(prev, next);
> 
> At the start of the function the rq_lock/smp_mb__after_spinlock
> pair provides a full memory barrier.  Further there is a full memory barrier
> in context_switch().
> 
> This means that any task that has already run and modified itself (the
> common case) has already seen two memory barriers before __schedule()
> runs and begins executing.  A task that modifies itself then sees a
> third full memory barrier pair with the rq_lock();
> 
> For a brand new task that is enqueued with wake_up_new_task() there
> are the memory barriers present from the taking and release the
> pi_lock and the rq_lock as the processes is enqueued as well as the
> full memory barrier at the start of __schedule() assuming __schedule()
> happens on the same cpu.
> 
> This means that by the time we reach the assignment of rq->curr
> except for values on the task struct modified in pick_next_task
> the code has the same guarantees as if it used rcu_assign_pointer.
> 
> Reading through all of the implementations of pick_next_task it
> appears pick_next_task is limited to modifying the task_struct fields
> "->se", "->rt", "->dl".  These fields are the sched_entity structures
> of the varies schedulers.
> 
> Further "->se.cfs_rq" is only changed in cgroup attach/move operations
> initialized by userspace.
> 
> Unless I have missed something this means that in practice that the
> users of "rcu_dereerence(rq->curr)" get normal rcu semantics of
> rcu_dereference() for the fields the care about, despite the
> assignment of rq->curr in __schedule() ot using rcu_assign_pointer.
> 
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20190903200603.GW2349@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net
> Signed-off-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
> ---
>  kernel/sched/core.c | 9 +++++++--
>  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> index 69015b7c28da..668262806942 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> @@ -3857,7 +3857,11 @@ static void __sched notrace __schedule(bool preempt)
>  
>  	if (likely(prev != next)) {
>  		rq->nr_switches++;
> -		rq->curr = next;
> +		/*
> +		 * RCU users of rcu_dereference(rq->curr) may not see
> +		 * changes to task_struct made by pick_next_task().
> +		 */
> +		RCU_INIT_POINTER(rq->curr, next);

It would be nice to have more explanations in the comments as to why we
don't use rcu_assign_pointer() here (the very fast-path issue) and why
it is expected to be fine (the rq_lock() + post spinlock barrier) under
which condition. Some short summary of the changelog. Because that line
implies way too many subtleties.

Thanks.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-09-20 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-30 14:08 [BUG] Use of probe_kernel_address() in task_rcu_dereference() without checking return value Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-08-30 15:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-08-30 15:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-30 15:40   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-08-30 15:43     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-30 15:41   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-30 16:09     ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-08-30 16:21       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-30 16:44         ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-08-30 16:58           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-30 19:36         ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-02 13:40           ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-09-02 13:53             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-02 14:44               ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-09-02 16:20                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-02 17:04             ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-02 17:34               ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-03  4:50                 ` [PATCH 0/3] task: Making tasks on the runqueue rcu protected Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-03  4:51                   ` [PATCH 1/3] task: Add a count of task rcu users Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-04 14:36                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-09-04 14:44                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2019-09-04 15:32                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-09-04 16:33                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2019-09-04 18:20                           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-05 14:59                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2019-09-03  4:52                   ` [PATCH 2/3] task: RCU protect tasks on the runqueue Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-03  7:41                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-03  7:47                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-03 16:44                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-03 17:08                           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-03 18:13                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-03 19:18                               ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-03 20:06                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-03 21:32                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-05 20:02                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-05 20:55                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-06  7:07                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-09 12:22                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-25  7:36                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-27  8:10                                   ` [tip: sched/urgent] tasks, sched/core: RCUify the assignment of rq->curr tip-bot2 for Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-03 19:42                               ` [PATCH 2/3] task: RCU protect tasks on the runqueue Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-14 12:31                           ` [PATCH v2 1/4] task: Add a count of task rcu users Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-14 12:31                           ` [PATCH v2 2/4] task: Ensure tasks are available for a grace period after leaving the runqueue Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-14 12:32                           ` [PATCH v2 3/4] task: With a grace period after finish_task_switch, remove unnecessary code Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-04 14:22                     ` [PATCH 2/3] task: RCU protect tasks on the runqueue Frederic Weisbecker
2019-09-03  4:52                   ` [PATCH 3/3] task: Clean house now that tasks on the runqueue are rcu protected Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-03  9:45                     ` kbuild test robot
2019-09-03 13:06                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-09-03 13:58                   ` [PATCH 0/3] task: Making tasks on the runqueue " Oleg Nesterov
2019-09-03 15:44                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-03 19:46                     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                   ` <87muf7f4bf.fsf_-_@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
2019-09-14 12:33                     ` [PATCH v2 1/4] task: Add a count of task rcu users Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-15 13:54                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-27  8:10                       ` [tip: sched/urgent] tasks: Add a count of task RCU users tip-bot2 for Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-14 12:33                     ` [PATCH v2 2/4] task: Ensure tasks are available for a grace period after leaving the runqueue Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-15 14:07                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-15 14:09                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-27  8:10                       ` [tip: sched/urgent] tasks, sched/core: " tip-bot2 for Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-14 12:34                     ` [PATCH v2 3/4] task: With a grace period after finish_task_switch, remove unnecessary code Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-15 14:32                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-15 17:07                         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-15 18:47                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-27  8:10                       ` [tip: sched/urgent] tasks, sched/core: With a grace period after finish_task_switch(), " tip-bot2 for Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-14 12:35                     ` [PATCH v2 4/4] task: RCUify the assignment of rq->curr Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-15 14:41                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-15 17:59                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-15 18:25                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-15 18:48                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-09-20 23:02                       ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2019-09-26  1:49                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-26 12:42                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2019-09-14 17:43                     ` [PATCH v2 0/4] task: Making tasks on the runqueue rcu protected Linus Torvalds
2019-09-17 17:38                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-25  7:51                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-26  1:11                           ` Eric W. Biederman

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