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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 5/9] x86/ioport: Reduce ioperm impact for sane usage further
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 09:25:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191107082541.GF30739@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjXcS--G3Wd8ZGEOdCNRAWPaUneyN1ryShQL-_yi1kvOA@mail.gmail.com>


* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 12:57 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> >
> > Calculate both the position of the first zero bit and the last zero bit to
> > limit the range which needs to be copied. This does not solve the problem
> > when the previous tasked had only byte 0 cleared and the next one has only
> > byte 65535 cleared, but trying to solve that would be too complex and
> > heavyweight for the context switch path. As the ioperm() usage is very rare
> > the case which is optimized is the single task/process which uses ioperm().
> 
> Hmm.
> 
> I may read this patch wrong, but from what I can tell, if we really
> have just one process with an io bitmap, we're doing unnecessary
> copies.
> 
> If we really have just one process that has an iobitmap, I think we
> could just keep the bitmap of that process entirely unchanged. Then,
> when we switch away from it, we set the io_bitmap_base to an invalid
> base outside the TSS segment, and when we switch back, we set it back
> to the valid one. No actual bitmap copies at all.
> 
> So I think that rather than the "begin/end offset" games, we should
> perhaps have a "what was the last process that used the IO bitmap for
> this TSS" pointer (and, I think, some sequence counter, so that when
> the process updates its bitmap, it invalidates that case)?
> 
>  Of course, you can do *nboth*, but if we really think that the common
> case is "one special process", then I think the begin/end offset is
> useless, but a "last bitmap process" would be very useful.
> 
> Am I missing something?

In fact on SMP systems this would result in a very nice optimization: 
pretty quickly *all* TSS's would be populated with that single task's 
bitmap, and it would persist even across migrations from CPU to CPU.

I'd love to get rid of the offset caching and bit scanning games as well 
- it doesn't really help in a number of common scenarios and it 
complicates this non-trivial piece of code a *LOT* - and we probably 
don't really have the natural testing density of this code anymore to 
find any regressions quickly.

So intuitively I'd suggest we gravitate towards the simplest 
implementation, with a good caching optimization for the single-task 
case.

I.e. the model I'm suggesting is that if a task uses ioperm() or iopl() 
then it should have a bitmap from that point on until exit(), even if 
it's all zeroes or all ones. Most applications that are using those 
primitives really need it all the time and are using just a few ioports, 
so all the tracking doesn't help much anyway.

On a related note, another simplification would be that in principle we 
could also use just a single bitmap and emulate iopl() as an ioperm(all) 
or ioperm(none) calls. Yeah, it's not fully ABI compatible for mixed 
ioperm()/iopl() uses, but is that ABI actually being relied on in 
practice?

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-11-07  8:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-06 19:34 [patch 0/9] x86/iopl: Prevent user space from using CLI/STI with iopl(3) Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 1/9] x86/ptrace: Prevent truncation of bitmap size Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07  7:31   ` Ingo Molnar
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 2/9] x86/process: Unify copy_thread_tls() Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-08 22:31   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-08 23:43     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-10 12:36       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-10 16:56         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-11  8:52           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 3/9] x86/cpu: Unify cpu_init() Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-08 22:34   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 4/9] x86/io: Speedup schedule out of I/O bitmap user Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07  9:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-07 14:04     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07 14:08       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-08 22:41         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-08 23:45           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-09  3:32             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-10 12:43               ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-09  0:24   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 5/9] x86/ioport: Reduce ioperm impact for sane usage further Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07  1:11   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-11-07  7:44     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07  8:25     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2019-11-07  9:17       ` Willy Tarreau
2019-11-07 10:00         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07 10:13           ` Willy Tarreau
2019-11-07 10:19           ` hpa
2019-11-07 10:27             ` Willy Tarreau
2019-11-07 10:50               ` hpa
2019-11-07 12:56                 ` Willy Tarreau
2019-11-07 16:45                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-11-07 16:53                     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-11-07 16:57                     ` Willy Tarreau
2019-11-10 17:17       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-07  7:37   ` Ingo Molnar
2019-11-07  7:45     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07  8:16   ` Ingo Molnar
2019-11-07 18:02     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07 19:24   ` Brian Gerst
2019-11-07 19:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-11-07 21:00       ` Brian Gerst
2019-11-07 21:32         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07 23:20           ` hpa
2019-11-07 21:44         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-11-08  1:12           ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-11-08  2:12             ` Brian Gerst
2019-11-10 17:21           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 6/9] x86/iopl: Fixup misleading comment Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 7/9] x86/iopl: Restrict iopl() permission scope Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07  9:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-10 17:26   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-10 20:31     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-10 21:05       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-10 21:21         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 8/9] x86/iopl: Remove legacy IOPL option Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07  6:11   ` Jürgen Groß
2019-11-07  6:26     ` hpa
2019-11-07 16:44     ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-11-07  9:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 9/9] selftests/x86/iopl: Verify that CLI/STI result in #GP Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07  7:28 ` [patch] x86/iopl: Remove unused local variable, update comments in ksys_ioperm() Ingo Molnar

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