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From: hpa@zytor.com
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 5/9] x86/ioport: Reduce ioperm impact for sane usage further
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 15:20:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8D806995-2FC5-4CE0-89D7-165D461D5242@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1911072223000.27903@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

On November 7, 2019 1:32:15 PM PST, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>On Thu, 7 Nov 2019, Brian Gerst wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 2:54 PM Linus Torvalds
>> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 11:24 AM Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Here is a different idea:  We already map the TSS virtually in
>> > > cpu_entry_area.  Why not page-align the IO bitmap and remap it to
>the
>> > > task's bitmap on task switch?  That would avoid all copying on
>task
>> > > switch.
>> >
>> > We map the tss _once_, statically, percpu, without ever changing
>it,
>> > and then we just (potentially) change a couple of fields in it on
>> > process switch.
>> >
>> > Your idea isn't horrible, but it would involve a TLB flush for the
>> > page when the io bitmap changes. Which is almost certainly more
>> > expensive than just copying the bitmap intelligently.
>> >
>> > Particularly since I do think that the copy can basically be done
>> > effectively never, assuming there really aren't multiple concurrent
>> > users of ioperm() (and iopl).
>> 
>> There wouldn't have to be a flush on every task switch.  If we make
>it
>> so that tasks that don't use a bitmap just unmap the pages in the
>> cpu_entry_area and set tss.io_bitmap_base to outside the segment
>> limit, we would only have to flush when switching from a task using
>> the bitmap (because the next task uses a different bitmap or we are
>> unmapping it).  If the previous task doesn't have a bitmap the pages
>> in cpu_entry_area were unmapped and can't be in the TLB, so no flush
>> is needed.
>
>Funny. I was just debating exactly this with Peter Ziljstra over IRC :)
> 
>> Going a step further, we could track which task is mapped to the
>> current cpu like proposed above, and only flush when a different task
>> needs the IO bitmap, or when the bitmap is being freed on task exit.
>
>Yes.
>
>But, we really should check what aside of DoSemu is using this still.
>None
>of my machines I checked have a single instance of ioperm()/iopl()
>usage.
>
>So the real question is whether it's worth the trouble or if we are
>just
>better off to copy if there is an actual user and the sequence count of
>the
>bitmap is different than the one which was active last time.
>
>Thanks,
>
>	tglx

I have written suffer using this, because of far better real time performance. I just want to punch a hole (just like mmapping an MMIO device.)

I do agree that let's not optimize for the rare case.
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-07 23:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-06 19:34 [patch 0/9] x86/iopl: Prevent user space from using CLI/STI with iopl(3) Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 1/9] x86/ptrace: Prevent truncation of bitmap size Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07  7:31   ` Ingo Molnar
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 2/9] x86/process: Unify copy_thread_tls() Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-08 22:31   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-08 23:43     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-10 12:36       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-10 16:56         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-11  8:52           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 3/9] x86/cpu: Unify cpu_init() Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-08 22:34   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 4/9] x86/io: Speedup schedule out of I/O bitmap user Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07  9:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-07 14:04     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07 14:08       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-08 22:41         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-08 23:45           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-09  3:32             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-10 12:43               ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-09  0:24   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 5/9] x86/ioport: Reduce ioperm impact for sane usage further Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07  1:11   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-11-07  7:44     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07  8:25     ` Ingo Molnar
2019-11-07  9:17       ` Willy Tarreau
2019-11-07 10:00         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07 10:13           ` Willy Tarreau
2019-11-07 10:19           ` hpa
2019-11-07 10:27             ` Willy Tarreau
2019-11-07 10:50               ` hpa
2019-11-07 12:56                 ` Willy Tarreau
2019-11-07 16:45                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-11-07 16:53                     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-11-07 16:57                     ` Willy Tarreau
2019-11-10 17:17       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-07  7:37   ` Ingo Molnar
2019-11-07  7:45     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07  8:16   ` Ingo Molnar
2019-11-07 18:02     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07 19:24   ` Brian Gerst
2019-11-07 19:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-11-07 21:00       ` Brian Gerst
2019-11-07 21:32         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07 23:20           ` hpa [this message]
2019-11-07 21:44         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-11-08  1:12           ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-11-08  2:12             ` Brian Gerst
2019-11-10 17:21           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 6/9] x86/iopl: Fixup misleading comment Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 7/9] x86/iopl: Restrict iopl() permission scope Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07  9:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-10 17:26   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-10 20:31     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-10 21:05       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-10 21:21         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 8/9] x86/iopl: Remove legacy IOPL option Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07  6:11   ` Jürgen Groß
2019-11-07  6:26     ` hpa
2019-11-07 16:44     ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-11-07  9:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-06 19:35 ` [patch 9/9] selftests/x86/iopl: Verify that CLI/STI result in #GP Thomas Gleixner
2019-11-07  7:28 ` [patch] x86/iopl: Remove unused local variable, update comments in ksys_ioperm() Ingo Molnar

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