* Re: linux tooling mailing list
[not found] ` <664e5923-d65e-0a3a-1320-8b6635146676@redhat.com>
@ 2020-09-15 20:49 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-09-30 17:25 ` Nick Desaulniers
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Nick Desaulniers @ 2020-09-15 20:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: postmaster
Cc: Sedat Dilek, Nick Clifton, Fāng-ruì Sòng,
Peter Zijlstra, Segher Boessenkool, Rasmus Villemoes,
clang-built-linux, LKML
Hello postmaster,
Any thoughts on linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org?
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 3:14 AM Nick Clifton <nickc@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> >>>> Would it be possible to setup:
> >>>> linux-tooling@vger.kernel.org
>
> >>> s/linux-tooling/linux-toolchains (better plural toolchains)
>
> >> FWIW FreeBSD names it "freebsd-toolchain".
> >> NetBSD names it "tech-toolchain".
> >>
> >> I'd slightly prefer the singular form.
>
> > OK with singular form.
> >
> > I was thinking of GNU and LLVM toolchain*s* - that's why the plural.
>
> Personally I prefer the plural too, but it is not a big issue.
>
> I am however delighted that it looks like this idea will go ahead.
--
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers
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* Re: linux tooling mailing list
2020-09-15 20:49 ` linux tooling mailing list Nick Desaulniers
@ 2020-09-30 17:25 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-09-30 17:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Nick Desaulniers @ 2020-09-30 17:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Linus Torvalds, Greg KH, Andrew Morton, Arnd Bergmann, Kees Cook
Cc: Sedat Dilek, Nick Clifton, Fāng-ruì Sòng,
Peter Zijlstra, Segher Boessenkool, Rasmus Villemoes,
clang-built-linux, LKML, postmaster
Does anyone know who's behind postmaster@vger.kernel.org? Maybe I can
email them directly if perhaps they don't check this email often?
(Benefit of the doubt)
On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 1:49 PM Nick Desaulniers
<ndesaulniers@google.com> wrote:
>
> Hello postmaster,
> Any thoughts on linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org?
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 3:14 AM Nick Clifton <nickc@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > >>>> Would it be possible to setup:
> > >>>> linux-tooling@vger.kernel.org
> >
> > >>> s/linux-tooling/linux-toolchains (better plural toolchains)
> >
> > >> FWIW FreeBSD names it "freebsd-toolchain".
> > >> NetBSD names it "tech-toolchain".
> > >>
> > >> I'd slightly prefer the singular form.
> >
> > > OK with singular form.
> > >
> > > I was thinking of GNU and LLVM toolchain*s* - that's why the plural.
> >
> > Personally I prefer the plural too, but it is not a big issue.
> >
> > I am however delighted that it looks like this idea will go ahead.
>
> --
> Thanks,
> ~Nick Desaulniers
--
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers
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* Re: linux tooling mailing list
2020-09-30 17:25 ` Nick Desaulniers
@ 2020-09-30 17:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-30 19:29 ` Nick Desaulniers
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Peter Zijlstra @ 2020-09-30 17:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nick Desaulniers
Cc: Linus Torvalds, Greg KH, Andrew Morton, Arnd Bergmann, Kees Cook,
Sedat Dilek, Nick Clifton, Fāng-ruì Sòng,
Segher Boessenkool, Rasmus Villemoes, clang-built-linux, LKML,
postmaster, David Miller
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 10:25:40AM -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
> Does anyone know who's behind postmaster@vger.kernel.org? Maybe I can
> email them directly if perhaps they don't check this email often?
> (Benefit of the doubt)
davem iirc.
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* Re: linux tooling mailing list
2020-09-30 17:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
@ 2020-09-30 19:29 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-09-30 22:26 ` David Miller
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Nick Desaulniers @ 2020-09-30 19:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Miller
Cc: Sedat Dilek, Nick Clifton, Fāng-ruì Sòng,
Segher Boessenkool, Rasmus Villemoes, clang-built-linux, LKML,
postmaster, Peter Zijlstra, Behan Webster
Hi David,
Apologies if this request has crossed your desk already; I know my
unreads in my inbox seems to have doubled this week somehow...(should
I send them all to /dev/null? I think I should.)
From Linux Plumbers conf Binutils BoF, Peter had the idea of setting a
toolchain agnostic email list, and from the thread folks seem content
with linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org. Is this something you would be
able to help set up for us? If not, is this something you can help
delegate to someone else to set up (any pointers who I should talk to
in that regard)?
The full thread:
https://groups.google.com/g/clang-built-linux/c/GLEkFKlDXfo (sorry I
didn't cc lkml sooner for a proper lore link; I myself am ~1 more bug
away from switching away from google groups forever).
--
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers
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* Re: linux tooling mailing list
2020-09-30 19:29 ` Nick Desaulniers
@ 2020-09-30 22:26 ` David Miller
2020-10-02 11:33 ` Nick Clifton
2020-10-02 12:01 ` Sedat Dilek
0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: David Miller @ 2020-09-30 22:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ndesaulniers
Cc: sedat.dilek, nickc, maskray, segher, linux, clang-built-linux,
linux-kernel, postmaster, peterz, behanw
From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 12:29:38 -0700
> linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
Created.
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* Re: linux tooling mailing list
2020-09-30 22:26 ` David Miller
@ 2020-10-02 11:33 ` Nick Clifton
2020-10-02 12:01 ` Sedat Dilek
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Nick Clifton @ 2020-10-02 11:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Miller, ndesaulniers
Cc: sedat.dilek, maskray, segher, linux, clang-built-linux,
linux-kernel, postmaster, peterz, behanw
Hi Guys,
>> linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
> Created.
I have been able to subscribe to this list, so it looks like thunderbirds are go...
Cheers
Nick
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* Re: linux tooling mailing list
2020-09-30 22:26 ` David Miller
2020-10-02 11:33 ` Nick Clifton
@ 2020-10-02 12:01 ` Sedat Dilek
2020-10-02 17:22 ` Segher Boessenkool
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Sedat Dilek @ 2020-10-02 12:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Miller
Cc: Nick Desaulniers, nickc, maskray, segher, linux,
Clang-Built-Linux ML, linux-kernel, postmaster, peterz, behanw
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 12:26 AM David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
>
> From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 12:29:38 -0700
>
> > linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
>
> Created.
>
I am subscribed, too.
Will there be a(n)...?
* archive (for example marc.info)
* patchwork url
- Sedat -
[1] https://github.com/ClangBuiltLinux/linux/issues/1170
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* Re: linux tooling mailing list
2020-10-02 12:01 ` Sedat Dilek
@ 2020-10-02 17:22 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-10-02 17:37 ` Randy Dunlap
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Segher Boessenkool @ 2020-10-02 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sedat Dilek
Cc: David Miller, Nick Desaulniers, nickc, maskray, linux,
Clang-Built-Linux ML, linux-kernel, postmaster, peterz, behanw
On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 02:01:13PM +0200, Sedat Dilek wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 12:26 AM David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> > From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
> > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 12:29:38 -0700
> > > linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
> >
> > Created.
>
> I am subscribed, too.
>
> Will there be a(n)...?
>
> * archive (for example marc.info)
A lore archive would be good?
> * patchwork url
We do not have any repositories associated with this list, and there
won't be many patches anyway, so patchwork will only be useful as a kind
of mail archive. I can ask to set one up though, if people want that?
Segher
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* Re: linux tooling mailing list
2020-10-02 17:22 ` Segher Boessenkool
@ 2020-10-02 17:37 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-10-05 17:50 ` Nick Desaulniers
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Randy Dunlap @ 2020-10-02 17:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Segher Boessenkool, Sedat Dilek
Cc: David Miller, Nick Desaulniers, nickc, maskray, linux,
Clang-Built-Linux ML, linux-kernel, postmaster, peterz, behanw
On 10/2/20 10:22 AM, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 02:01:13PM +0200, Sedat Dilek wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 12:26 AM David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
>>> From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 12:29:38 -0700
>>>> linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
>>>
>>> Created.
>>
>> I am subscribed, too.
>>
>> Will there be a(n)...?
>>
>> * archive (for example marc.info)
>
> A lore archive would be good?
That has already been requested.
>
>> * patchwork url
>
> We do not have any repositories associated with this list, and there
> won't be many patches anyway, so patchwork will only be useful as a kind
> of mail archive. I can ask to set one up though, if people want that?
>
>
> Segher
>
--
~Randy
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* Re: linux tooling mailing list
2020-10-02 17:37 ` Randy Dunlap
@ 2020-10-05 17:50 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-10-05 17:57 ` Sedat Dilek
2020-10-05 23:59 ` David Miller
0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Nick Desaulniers @ 2020-10-05 17:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David S. Miller
Cc: Segher Boessenkool, Sedat Dilek, Nick Clifton, Fangrui Song,
Rasmus Villemoes, Clang-Built-Linux ML, LKML, postmaster,
Peter Zijlstra, Behan Webster, Randy Dunlap
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 10:37 AM Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On 10/2/20 10:22 AM, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 02:01:13PM +0200, Sedat Dilek wrote:
> >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 12:26 AM David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> >>> From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
> >>> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 12:29:38 -0700
> >>>> linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
> >>>
> >>> Created.
> >>
> >> I am subscribed, too.
> >>
> >> Will there be a(n)...?
> >>
> >> * archive (for example marc.info)
> >
> > A lore archive would be good?
>
> That has already been requested.
Hi David,
Thank you for setting up the mailing list. I appreciate it. Now that
the lore archive has been set up
(https://lore.kernel.org/linux-toolchains/), would you mind linking to
it from http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html under archives of
linux-toolchains?
>
> >
> >> * patchwork url
> >
> > We do not have any repositories associated with this list, and there
> > won't be many patches anyway, so patchwork will only be useful as a kind
> > of mail archive. I can ask to set one up though, if people want that?
Personally, I haven't been using patchwork. I know some maintainers
use it to keep track of reviews of lots of patches, but other than
that is there a major use case for patchwork I'm missing?
> >
> >
> > Segher
> >
>
>
> --
> ~Randy
>
--
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers
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* Re: linux tooling mailing list
2020-10-05 17:50 ` Nick Desaulniers
@ 2020-10-05 17:57 ` Sedat Dilek
2020-10-05 23:59 ` David Miller
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Sedat Dilek @ 2020-10-05 17:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nick Desaulniers
Cc: David S. Miller, Segher Boessenkool, Nick Clifton, Fangrui Song,
Rasmus Villemoes, Clang-Built-Linux ML, LKML, postmaster,
Peter Zijlstra, Behan Webster, Randy Dunlap
On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 7:50 PM Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 10:37 AM Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 10/2/20 10:22 AM, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 02:01:13PM +0200, Sedat Dilek wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 12:26 AM David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> > >>> From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
> > >>> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 12:29:38 -0700
> > >>>> linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
> > >>>
> > >>> Created.
> > >>
> > >> I am subscribed, too.
> > >>
> > >> Will there be a(n)...?
> > >>
> > >> * archive (for example marc.info)
> > >
> > > A lore archive would be good?
> >
> > That has already been requested.
>
> Hi David,
> Thank you for setting up the mailing list. I appreciate it. Now that
> the lore archive has been set up
> (https://lore.kernel.org/linux-toolchains/), would you mind linking to
> it from http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html under archives of
> linux-toolchains?
>
Updating MAINTAINERS file came to my mind... Dunno where ro place the
new ML info?
- Sedat -
> >
> > >
> > >> * patchwork url
> > >
> > > We do not have any repositories associated with this list, and there
> > > won't be many patches anyway, so patchwork will only be useful as a kind
> > > of mail archive. I can ask to set one up though, if people want that?
>
> Personally, I haven't been using patchwork. I know some maintainers
> use it to keep track of reviews of lots of patches, but other than
> that is there a major use case for patchwork I'm missing?
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Segher
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ~Randy
> >
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> ~Nick Desaulniers
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* Re: linux tooling mailing list
2020-10-05 17:50 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-10-05 17:57 ` Sedat Dilek
@ 2020-10-05 23:59 ` David Miller
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: David Miller @ 2020-10-05 23:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ndesaulniers
Cc: segher, sedat.dilek, nickc, maskray, linux, clang-built-linux,
linux-kernel, postmaster, peterz, behanw, rdunlap
From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 10:50:35 -0700
> Now that the lore archive has been set up
> (https://lore.kernel.org/linux-toolchains/), would you mind linking to
> it from http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html under archives of
> linux-toolchains?
Done.
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