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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>
Cc: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 00/26] Make reporting-bugs easier to grasp and yet more detailed & helpful
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 14:58:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201120145813.76b7b326@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2dcea97c-7b98-1ad2-d2ba-e7f7d77dc855@leemhuis.info>

On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 11:46:07 +0100
Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info> wrote:

> Am 19.11.20 um 01:29 schrieb Jonathan Corbet:
> > On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 11:13:52 +0100
> > Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info> wrote:  
> 
> >   - Collapse the whole thing down to a patch adding reporting-bugs-v2.rst
> >     (or some suitable name).  I do wonder if it should also move to the
> >     process manual as part of this; not only admins will report bugs.  
> 
> After a night's sleep and Randy's comment I for now settled on
> Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst

Keeping it in the admin guide is OK.  Not sure about the name, though; if
you're really dead set against bugs, maybe reporting-problems.rst?

> >   - Add a comment at the top saying it's a proposed replacement and
> >     soliciting comments.  [...]  
> Struggled a bit to find the right words, but I think this should work:
> 
> ```
> .. important::
> 
>     This document is being prepared to replace 
> Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-bugs.rst. The main work is done and 
> you are already free to follow its instructions when reporting issues to 
> the Linux kernel developers. But keep in mind, below text still needs a 
> few finishing touches and review. It was merged to the Linux kernel 
> sources at this stage to make this process easier and increase the 
> text's visibility.
> 
>     Any improvements for the text or other feedback is thus very much 
> welcome. Please send it to 'Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>' and 
> 'Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>', ideally with 'Linux kernel mailing 
> list (LKML) <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>' and the 'Linux Kernel 
> Documentation List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>' in CC.
> 
>     Areas in the text that still need work or discussion contain a hint 
> like this which point out the remaining issues; all of them start with 
> the word "FIXME" to make them easy to find.
> ```

Seems OK.

> >   - In a separate patch you could add a comment to the existing document
> >     pointing to the new one as the true source of wisdom.  
> 
> This is what I plan to add:
> 
> ```
> .. note::
> 
>     Instead of reading below text consider reading this document 
> instead: Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst. It's intended 
> to replace below text in the near future, as it's easier to grasp and 
> more straight forward; it also provides way more details and more 
> accurately describes the steps currently needed when reporting bugs to 
> the Linux developers.
> ```

I'd be a bit more straightforward:

	This document is obsolete, and will be replaced by
	Documentation/admin-guide/$NAME in the near future.

Not sure that more is really needed?

jon

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-20 21:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-12 17:58 [RFC PATCH v2 00/26] Make reporting-bugs easier to grasp and yet more detailed & helpful Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/26] docs: reporting-bugs: temporary markers for licensing and diff reasons Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/26] docs: reporting-bugs: Create a TLDR how to report issues Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/26] docs: reporting-bugs: step-by-step guide on " Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/26] docs: reporting-bugs: step-by-step guide for issues in stable & longterm Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/26] docs: reporting-bugs: begin reference section providing details Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/26] docs: reporting-bugs: point out we only care about fresh vanilla kernels Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/26] docs: reporting-bugs: let users classify their issue Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/26] docs: reporting-bugs: make readers check the taint flag Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-19  0:05   ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-11-19 10:26     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/26] docs: reporting-bugs: help users find the proper place for their report Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/26] docs: reporting-bugs: remind people to look for existing reports Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/26] docs: reporting-bugs: remind people to back up their data Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/26] docs: reporting-bugs: tell users to disable DKMS et al Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/26] docs: reporting-bugs: point out the environment might be causing issue Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/26] docs: reporting-bugs: make users write notes, one for each issue Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/26] docs: reporting-bugs: make readers test a fresh kernel Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/26] docs: reporting-bugs: let users check taint status again Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/26] docs: reporting-bugs: explain options if reproducing on mainline fails Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/26] docs: reporting-bugs: let users optimize their notes Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/26] docs: reporting-bugs: decode failure messages [need help!] Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 20/26] docs: reporting-bugs: instructions for handling regressions Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 21/26] docs: reporting-bugs: details on writing and sending the report Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-19  0:17   ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-11-19  9:42     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 22/26] docs: reporting-bugs: explain what users should do once the report is out Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 23/26] docs: reporting-bugs: details for issues specific to stable and longterm Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 24/26] docs: reporting-bugs: explain why users might get neither reply nor fix Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 25/26] docs: reporting-bugs: explain things could be easier Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-12 17:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 26/26] docs: reporting-bugs: add SPDX tag and license hint, remove markers Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-13 22:33 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/26] Make reporting-bugs easier to grasp and yet more detailed & helpful Jonathan Corbet
2020-11-13 22:47   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-11-15 10:13   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-19  0:29     ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-11-19 12:29       ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-19 16:20         ` Randy Dunlap
2020-11-20 21:59         ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-11-20 10:46       ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-20 16:27         ` Randy Dunlap
2020-11-20 21:58         ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2020-11-22  5:33           ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2020-11-22  5:42             ` Randy Dunlap

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