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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] fs/task_mmu: acquire mmap_lock for write on soft-dirty cleanup
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 22:16:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210105221628.GA12854@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B1B85771-B211-4FCC-AEEF-BDFD37332C25@vmware.com>

On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 09:22:51PM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
> > On Jan 5, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 07:26:43PM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
> >>> On Jan 5, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 01:25:29AM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote:
> >>>> Fixes: 0f8975ec4db2 ("mm: soft-dirty bits for user memory changes tracking")
> >>> 
> >>> Targeting a backport down to 2013 when nothing could wrong in practice
> >>> with page_mapcount sounds backwards and unnecessarily risky.
> >>> 
> >>> In theory it was already broken and in theory
> >>> 09854ba94c6aad7886996bfbee2530b3d8a7f4f4 is absolutely perfect and the
> >>> previous code of 2013 is completely wrong, but in practice the code
> >>> from 2013 worked perfectly until Aug 21 2020.
> >> 
> >> Well… If you consider the bug that Will recently fixed [1], then soft-dirty
> >> was broken (for a different, yet related reason) since 0758cd830494
> >> ("asm-generic/tlb: avoid potential double flush”).
> >> 
> >> This is not to say that I argue that the patch should be backported to 2013,
> >> just to say that memory corruption bugs can be unnoticed.
> >> 
> >> [1] https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-mm/patch/20201210121110.10094-2-will@kernel.org/
> > 
> > Is this a fix or a cleanup?
> > 
> > The above is precisely what I said earlier that tlb_gather had no
> > reason to stay in clear_refs and it had to use inc_tlb_flush_pending
> > as mprotect, but it's not a fix? Is it? I suggested it as a pure
> > cleanup. So again no backport required. The commit says fix this but
> > it means "clean this up".
> 
> It is actually a fix. I think the commit log is not entirely correct and
> should include:
> 
>   Fixes: 0758cd830494 ("asm-generic/tlb: avoid potential double flush”).
> 
> Since 0758cd830494, calling tlb_finish_mmu() without any previous call to
> pte_free_tlb() and friends does not flush the TLB. The soft-dirty bug
> producer that I sent fails without this patch of Will.

Yes, it's a fix, but I didn't rush it for 5.10 because I don't think rushing
this sort of thing does anybody any favours. I agree that the commit log
should be updated; I mentioned this report in the cover letter:

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/CA+32v5zzFYJQ7eHfJP-2OHeR+6p5PZsX=RDJNU6vGF3hLO+j-g@mail.gmail.com/

demonstrating that somebody has independently stumbled over the missing TLB
invalidation in userspace, but it's not as bad as the other issues we've been
discussing in this thread.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-05 22:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-25  9:25 [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] mm: fix races due to deferred TLB flushes Nadav Amit
2020-12-25  9:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] mm/userfaultfd: fix memory corruption due to writeprotect Nadav Amit
2021-01-04 12:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-04 19:24     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-04 19:35       ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-04 20:19         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-04 20:39           ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-04 21:01             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-04 21:26               ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 18:45                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 19:05                   ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 19:45                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 20:06                       ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 21:06                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 21:43                           ` Peter Xu
2021-01-05  8:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-05  8:52         ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 14:26           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-05  8:58       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-05  9:22         ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 17:58         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 15:08   ` Peter Xu
2021-01-05 18:08     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 18:41       ` Peter Xu
2021-01-05 18:55         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 19:07     ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 19:43       ` Peter Xu
2020-12-25  9:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] fs/task_mmu: acquire mmap_lock for write on soft-dirty cleanup Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 15:08   ` Will Deacon
2021-01-05 18:20   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 19:26     ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 20:39       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-05 21:20         ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-05 21:22         ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-05 22:16           ` Will Deacon [this message]
2021-01-06  0:29             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-06  0:02           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 20:04           ` [PATCH 0/2] page_count can't be used to decide when wp_page_copy Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 20:04             ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: proc: Invalidate TLB after clearing soft-dirty page state Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 20:04             ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: soft_dirty: userfaultfd: introduce wrprotect_tlb_flush_pending Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 20:17               ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 20:25                 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 20:58                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 21:29                   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 21:53                     ` John Hubbard
2021-01-07 22:00                       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:14                         ` John Hubbard
2021-01-07 22:20                           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:24                             ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:37                               ` John Hubbard
2021-01-15 11:27                       ` Jan Kara
2021-01-07 22:31                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 22:42                       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:51                         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 23:48                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08  0:25                             ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-08 12:48                               ` Will Deacon
2021-01-08 16:14                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08 17:39                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-08 17:53                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08 19:25                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-09  0:12                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08 17:30                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 23:28                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 21:36               ` kernel test robot
2021-01-07 20:25             ` [PATCH 0/2] page_count can't be used to decide when wp_page_copy Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-07 20:32               ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 21:05                 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:02                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 22:17                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-07 22:56                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-09 19:32                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-09 19:46                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-15 14:30                       ` Jan Kara
2021-01-07 21:54                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-07 21:45               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08 13:36                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-08 17:00                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-08 18:19                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-08 18:31                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-08 18:38                         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-08 23:34                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-09 19:03                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-09 19:15                             ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-08 18:59                       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-08 22:43                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-09  0:42                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-09  2:50                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-11 14:30                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-13 21:56                           ` Jerome Glisse
2021-01-13 23:39                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-14  2:35                               ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]                     ` <20210109034958.6928-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2021-01-11 14:39                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-05 21:55         ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] fs/task_mmu: acquire mmap_lock for write on soft-dirty cleanup Peter Xu
2021-03-02 22:13 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] mm: fix races due to deferred TLB flushes Peter Xu
2021-03-02 22:14   ` Nadav Amit

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