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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>
Cc: moyufeng <moyufeng@huawei.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>, Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>,
	Or Gerlitz <gerlitz.or@gmail.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"michal.lkml@markovi.net" <michal.lkml@markovi.net>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@mellanox.com>,
	Salil Mehta <salil.mehta@huawei.com>,
	"lipeng (Y)" <lipeng321@huawei.com>,
	Guangbin Huang <huangguangbin2@huawei.com>,
	<shenjian15@huawei.com>,
	"chenhao (DY)" <chenhao288@hisilicon.com>,
	Jiaran Zhang <zhangjiaran@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 0/8] Introducing subdev bus and devlink extension
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 11:41:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210604114109.3a7ada85@kicinski-fedora-PC1C0HJN.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c9afecb5-3c0e-6421-ea58-b041d8173636@huawei.com>

On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 09:18:04 +0800 Yunsheng Lin wrote:
> >> Yes, it is confusing, how about using the controler_id to indicate
> >> different NIC? we can make sure controler_id is unqiue in the same
> >> host, a controler_id corresponds to a devlink instance, vendor info
> >> or serial num for the devlink instance can further indicate more info
> >> to the system user?
> >>
> >> pci/controler_id/0000:03:00.0/61  
> > 
> > What is a "controller id" in concrete terms? Another abstract ID which
> > may change on every boot?  
> 
> My initial thinking is a id from a global IDA pool, which indeed may
> change on every boot.
> 
> I am not really thinking much deeper about the controller id, just
> mirroring the bus identifiers for pcie device and ifindex for netdev,

devlink instance id seems fine, but there's already a controller
concept in devlink so please steer clear of that naming.

> which may change too if the device is pluged into different pci slot
> on every boot?

Heh. What is someone reflashes the part to change it's serial number? :)
pci slot is reasonably stable, as proven by years of experience trying
to find stable naming for netdevs.

> >> How about:
> >> The PF first probed creates the devlink instance? PF probed later can
> >> connect/register to that devlink instance created by the PF first probed.
> >> It seems some locking need to ensure the above happens as intended too.
> >>
> >> About linking, the PF provide vendor info/serial number(or whatever is
> >> unqiue between different vendor) of a controller it belong to, if the
> >> controller does not exist yet, create one and connect/register to that
> >> devlink instance, otherwise just do the connecting/registering.  
> > 
> > Sounds about right, but I don't understand why another ID is
> > necessary. Why not allow devlink instances to have multiple names, 
> > like we allow aliases for netdevs these days?  
> 
> We could still allow devlink instances to have multiple names,
> which seems to be more like devlink tool problem?
> 
> For example, devlink tool could use the id or the vendor_info/
> serial_number to indicate a devlink instance according to user's
> request.

Typing serial numbers seems pretty painful.

> Aliase could be allowed too as long as devlink core provide a
> field and ops to set/get the field mirroring the ifalias for
> netdevice?

I don't understand.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-04 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-01  5:37 [RFC net-next 0/8] Introducing subdev bus and devlink extension Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  5:37 ` [RFC net-next 1/8] subdev: Introducing subdev bus Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  7:17   ` Greg KH
2019-03-01 16:35     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-01 17:00       ` Greg KH
2019-03-26 11:48     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2019-03-01  5:37 ` [RFC net-next 2/8] subdev: Introduce pm callbacks Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  5:37 ` [RFC net-next 3/8] modpost: Add support for subdev device id table Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  5:37 ` [RFC net-next 4/8] devlink: Introduce and use devlink_init/cleanup() in alloc/free Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  5:37 ` [RFC net-next 5/8] devlink: Add variant of devlink_register/unregister Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  5:37 ` [RFC net-next 6/8] devlink: Add support for devlink subdev lifecycle Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  5:37 ` [RFC net-next 7/8] net/mlx5: Add devlink subdev life cycle command support Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  7:18   ` Greg KH
2019-03-01 16:04     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  5:37 ` [RFC net-next 8/8] net/mlx5: Add subdev driver to bind to subdev devices Parav Pandit
2019-03-01  7:21   ` Greg KH
2019-03-01 17:21     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-05  7:13       ` Greg KH
2019-03-05 17:57         ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-05 19:27           ` Greg KH
2019-03-05 21:37             ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-01 22:12   ` Saeed Mahameed
2019-03-04 16:45     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-01 20:03 ` [RFC net-next 0/8] Introducing subdev bus and devlink extension Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-04  4:41   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-05  1:35     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-05 19:46       ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-05 22:39         ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-03-05 23:17           ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-05 23:44             ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-06  0:44               ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-06  3:51                 ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-03-06  5:42                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-07 19:04                     ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-03-07 20:27                       ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-07 20:53                         ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-03-07 21:02                           ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-07 21:07                             ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-03-07 21:21                               ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-07 22:01                                 ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-03-07 22:31                                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-08 12:19                                     ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-03-08 17:09                                       ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-05  1:45     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-05 16:52       ` Parav Pandit
2021-05-31 10:36         ` moyufeng
2021-06-01  5:37           ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-06-01  7:33             ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-01 21:34               ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-06-02  2:24                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-02 16:34                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-06-03  3:46                     ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-03 17:53                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-06-04  1:18                         ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-04 18:41                           ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2021-06-07  1:36                             ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-07 19:46                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-06-08 12:10                                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-08 17:29                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-06-09  9:16                                     ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-09  9:38                                       ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-09 11:05                                         ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-09 11:59                                           ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-09 12:30                                             ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-09 13:45                                               ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-10  7:04                                                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-10  7:17                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-09 16:40                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-06-10  6:52                                         ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-09  9:52                                   ` Parav Pandit
2021-06-09 11:16                                     ` Yunsheng Lin
2021-06-09 12:00                                       ` Parav Pandit

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