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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: "Alexander E. Patrakov" <patrakov@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v43 01/15] Linux Random Number Generator
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 17:10:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220111171059.GA10674@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN_LGv0CTDi9k=t=TGHvaHZz5YVT+OUEBaRXjP=Xv=kousHY1w@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 02:57:54PM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:

> LD_PRELOAD is not a solution because of containers and statically-linked
> binaries.

No, it doesn't solve all problems, but the question is whether it needs 
to. We're talking about the scenario where:

a) a customer requires FIPS compliance, and
b) the customer has an app that calls getrandom() and doesn't fallback, 
and
c) they're doing so with statically linked binaries or container 
infrastructure that doesn't allow injection of other libraries

How common is this? Does the kernel need to solve this scenario?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-11 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-21 16:39 [PATCH v43 00/15] /dev/random - a new approach Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:40 ` [PATCH v43 01/15] Linux Random Number Generator Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 17:23   ` Joe Perches
2021-11-21 22:42   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-11-22  5:34     ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-22  6:02       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-22  6:42         ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-22  6:55           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-22 15:09             ` Simo Sorce
2021-11-22 21:06               ` Jeffrey Walton
2021-11-23  5:38                 ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-26 15:42               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-22 16:56         ` John Haxby
2021-11-26 15:40           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-22 14:59     ` Simo Sorce
2021-11-26 15:44       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-26 16:15         ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-26 16:22           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-29 15:31             ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-29 16:25               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-29 16:50                 ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-30 12:24                 ` Jeffrey Walton
2021-11-30 14:04                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-30 14:31                     ` Simo Sorce
2021-11-30 15:45                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-30 17:05                         ` Willy Tarreau
2021-11-30 17:08                         ` Simo Sorce
2021-11-30 18:15                         ` Eric Biggers
2021-11-30 18:39                           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-11-30 19:41                             ` Simo Sorce
2021-12-01 16:02                               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-01 17:19                                 ` Simo Sorce
2021-12-01 17:55                                   ` Boris Krasnovskiy
2021-12-01 18:05                                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-01 18:24                                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2021-12-02  0:24                                     ` Jeffrey Walton
2021-12-02  7:12                                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-02 15:50                                         ` John Haxby
2021-12-01 18:29                                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
     [not found]                                 ` <BY5PR14MB3416DF44172D8F47D0B078A986689@BY5PR14MB3416.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
2021-12-01 18:05                                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-10  1:43                                 ` Marcelo Henrique Cerri
2021-12-10  6:46                                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-10  9:30                                     ` Marcelo Henrique Cerri
2021-12-10  9:48                                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-10 17:02                                         ` Simo Sorce
2021-12-11  7:06                                           ` Willy Tarreau
2021-12-11  8:09                                             ` Stephan Müller
2021-12-11  8:57                                               ` Willy Tarreau
2022-01-10 13:23                                   ` Marcelo Henrique Cerri
2022-01-10 14:11                                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-10 14:29                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-10 14:38                                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-10 17:38                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-10 18:29                                             ` Eric Biggers
2022-01-10 18:44                                               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-10 19:41                                                 ` Simo Sorce
2022-01-10 20:05                                                   ` Eric Biggers
2022-01-10 19:49                                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-10 22:19                                                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11  1:44                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-11  3:10                                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-11  4:04                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2022-01-11  4:13                                                         ` Matthew Garrett
2022-01-11 10:01                                                           ` Alexander E. Patrakov
     [not found]                                                           ` <CAN_LGv0CTDi9k=t=TGHvaHZz5YVT+OUEBaRXjP=Xv=kousHY1w@mail.gmail.com>
2022-01-11 17:10                                                             ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2022-01-11 13:16                                                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 16:08                                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-11 13:06                                                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-11 15:10                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-01-10 21:38                                                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-10 15:07                                         ` Marcelo Henrique Cerri
2021-11-30 15:13                     ` Jeffrey Walton
2021-11-30 15:39                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-30  7:32       ` Sandy Harris
2021-11-30  7:55         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-30  8:56           ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-30  9:12             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-04  9:53           ` Sandy Harris
2021-11-22 10:33   ` kernel test robot
2021-11-22 11:47     ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-25  5:25       ` [kbuild-all] " Chen, Rong A
2021-11-30  2:55         ` Sandy Harris
2021-11-30  6:06           ` Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:40 ` [PATCH v43 02/15] LRNG - IRQ entropy source Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:40 ` [PATCH v43 03/15] LRNG - sysctls and /proc interface Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:41 ` [PATCH v43 04/15] LRNG - allocate one DRNG instance per NUMA node Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v43 05/15] LRNG - CPU entropy source Stephan Müller
2021-11-22  7:09   ` kernel test robot
2021-11-22 11:48     ` Stephan Mueller
2021-11-21 16:42 ` [PATCH v43 06/15] LRNG - add switchable DRNG support Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:43 ` [PATCH v43 07/15] LRNG - add common generic hash support Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:43 ` [PATCH v43 08/15] crypto: DRBG - externalize DRBG functions for LRNG Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:44 ` [PATCH v43 09/15] LRNG - add SP800-90A DRBG extension Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:45 ` [PATCH v43 10/15] LRNG - add kernel crypto API PRNG extension Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:45 ` [PATCH v43 11/15] crypto: move Jitter RNG header include dir Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:46 ` [PATCH v43 12/15] LRNG - add Jitter RNG fast noise source Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:46 ` [PATCH v43 13/15] LRNG - add SP800-90B compliant health tests Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:47 ` [PATCH v43 14/15] LRNG - add interface for gathering of raw entropy Stephan Müller
2021-11-21 16:47 ` [PATCH v43 15/15] LRNG - add power-on and runtime self-tests Stephan Müller
2021-12-11 15:45 ` [PATCH v43 00/15] /dev/random - a new approach Thomas Schoebel-Theuer
2021-12-11 16:04   ` Willy Tarreau

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