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From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: "Clément Léger" <clement.leger@bootlin.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Vivien Didelot" <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"Magnus Damm" <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	"Herve Codina" <herve.codina@bootlin.com>,
	"Miquèl Raynal" <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>,
	"Milan Stevanovic" <milan.stevanovic@se.com>,
	"Jimmy Lalande" <jimmy.lalande@se.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"Jean-Pierre Geslin" <jean-pierre.geslin@non.se.com>,
	"Phil Edworthy" <phil.edworthy@renesas.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 06/12] net: dsa: rzn1-a5psw: add Renesas RZ/N1 advanced 5 port switch driver
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:01:47 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220415120147.7ya2rwtxcldahh4n@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YllVsiN7YhaUkvQe@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 12:23:30PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> If ->shutdown has been called, the system is going down, and userspace
> is probably already dead.

There isn't anything preventing ->remove from being called after ->shutdown
has been called.

It all starts with the pattern that some driver authors prefer, which is
to redirect their ->shutdown method to ->remove. They argue that it
provides for a well-tested common path, so in turn, this pattern is
quite widespread and I'm not one to argue for removing it.

When such driver (redirecting ->shutdown to ->remove) is a bus driver
(SPI, I2C, lately even the fsl-mc bus), the implication is that the
controller will be unregistered on shutdown. To unregister a bus, you
need to unregister all devices on the bus too.

Due to implicit device ordering on the dpm_list, the ->shutdown() method
of children on said bus has already executed, now we're in the context
of the ->shutdown() procedure of the bus driver itself.

You can argue "hey, that's SPI/I2C and this is a platform driver, there
isn't any bus that unregisters on shutdown here", and you may have a
point there. But platform devices aren't just memory-mapped devices,
they can also be children of mfd devices on SPI/I2C buses. So in theory
you can see this pattern happen on platform devices as well.

This is the reason why I insist for uniformity in the DSA layer in the
way that shutdown is handled. People copy and paste code a lot, and by
leaving them with less variance in the code that they copy, subtle
differences that are not understood but do matter are less likely to
creep in.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-15 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-14 12:22 [PATCH net-next 00/12] add support for Renesas RZ/N1 ethernet subsystem devices Clément Léger
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 01/12] net: dsa: add support for Renesas RZ/N1 A5PSW switch tag code Clément Léger
2022-04-14 13:44   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 02/12] net: dsa: add Renesas RZ/N1 switch tag driver Clément Léger
2022-04-14 14:22   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-14 14:35     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 15:11       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-14 16:18         ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 16:23           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-04-15  7:23             ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 22:50   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 03/12] dt-bindings: net: pcs: add bindings for Renesas RZ/N1 MII converter Clément Léger
2022-04-14 18:59   ` Rob Herring
2022-04-19 13:43   ` Rob Herring
2022-04-19 15:00     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-20 20:11       ` Rob Herring
2022-04-21  7:35         ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 04/12] net: pcs: add Renesas MII converter driver Clément Léger
2022-04-14 12:49   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-04-14 15:14     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-20 13:25   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 05/12] dt-bindings: net: dsa: add bindings for Renesas RZ/N1 Advanced 5 port switch Clément Léger
2022-04-14 18:59   ` Rob Herring
2022-04-27 12:20   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-04-27 12:56     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 06/12] net: dsa: rzn1-a5psw: add Renesas RZ/N1 advanced 5 port switch driver Clément Léger
2022-04-14 13:02   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-04-15  8:40     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-15  8:52       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-04-14 14:47   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-14 17:51     ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-15  9:34     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-15 10:55       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-15 11:02         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-04-15 11:14           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-15 11:23             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-04-15 12:01               ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2022-04-15 11:05         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-15 12:31           ` Clément Léger
2022-04-15 12:28         ` Clément Léger
2022-04-15 12:41           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-14 17:55   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-15 12:33     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 07/12] net: dsa: rzn1-a5psw: add statistics support Clément Léger
2022-04-14 17:34   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-15 12:42     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 23:16   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-15 12:04     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-15 13:37       ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-15 13:44         ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 08/12] net: dsa: rzn1-a5psw: add FDB support Clément Léger
2022-04-14 17:51   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-20  8:16     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-20 19:52       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-21  7:38         ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 09/12] ARM: dts: r9a06g032: describe MII converter Clément Léger
2022-04-14 23:22   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-15  8:24     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-15 14:16       ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-15 14:38         ` Clément Léger
2022-04-15 15:12           ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-15 15:29             ` Clément Léger
2022-04-15 16:19               ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-15 16:45                 ` Clément Léger
2022-04-16 13:48                   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-19  9:03                     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-19 12:57                       ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-20 20:16                 ` Rob Herring
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 10/12] ARM: dts: r9a06g032: describe GMAC2 Clément Léger
2022-04-21  9:31   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 11/12] ARM: dts: r9a06g032: describe switch Clément Léger
2022-04-21  9:34   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 12/12] MAINTAINERS: add Renesas RZ/N1 switch related driver entry Clément Léger

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