From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
Joao Moreira <joao@overdrivepizza.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/ibt: Implement FineIBT
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 16:38:54 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221018233854.qj3vrdxsnc6ds7qs@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y06rtoE9BsERG9uv@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 03:35:50PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> Implement an alternative CFI scheme that merges both the fine-grained
> nature of kCFI but also takes full advantage of the coarse grained
> hardware CFI as provided by IBT.
>
> To contrast:
>
> kCFI is a pure software CFI scheme and relies on being able to read
> text -- specifically the instruction *before* the target symbol, and
> does the hash validation *before* doing the call (otherwise control
> flow is compromised already).
>
> FineIBT is a software and hardware hybrid scheme; by ensuring every
> branch target starts with a hash validation it is possible to place
> the hash validation after the branch. This has several advantages:
>
> o the (hash) load is avoided; no memop; no RX requirement.
>
> o IBT WAIT-FOR-ENDBR state is a speculation stop; by placing
> the hash validation in the immediate instruction after
> the branch target there is a minimal speculation window
> and the whole is a viable defence against SpectreBHB.
>
> Obviously this patch relies on kCFI (upstream), but additionally it also
> relies on the padding from the call-depth-tracking patches
> (tip/x86/core). It uses this padding to place the hash-validation while
> the call-sites are re-written to modify the indirect target to be 16
> bytes in front of the original target, thus hitting this new preamble.
Can the objtool changes be moved to a separate patch?
The RFC was 11 patches, is it now much smaller because of the new
dependencies? The RFC had some eBPF changes and a test module, are
those no longer needed?
--
Josh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-18 23:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-18 13:35 [PATCH] x86/ibt: Implement FineIBT Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 14:43 ` David Laight
2022-10-18 15:58 ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-18 17:20 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-18 20:09 ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-19 5:33 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-18 21:27 ` David Laight
2022-10-18 14:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 18:09 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-18 19:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 23:31 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-10-19 5:22 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-19 11:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-19 5:14 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-18 19:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 21:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-19 5:05 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-19 12:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-19 15:22 ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-10-20 11:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 19:59 ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-19 5:32 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-19 19:35 ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-18 20:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-19 5:00 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-18 20:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 20:17 ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-18 20:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-19 4:48 ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-19 5:19 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-31 19:13 ` Joao Moreira
2022-11-01 21:39 ` Kees Cook
2022-11-01 21:50 ` Joao Moreira
2024-05-06 17:36 ` Kees Cook
2024-05-07 1:45 ` Joao Moreira
2022-10-19 5:18 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-19 5:16 ` Kees Cook
2022-10-20 11:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-18 23:38 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2022-10-19 7:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-21 23:08 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-10-22 15:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-24 17:15 ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-10-24 18:38 ` Joao Moreira
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