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From: Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 11/50] x86/sev: Add helper functions for RMPUPDATE and PSMASH instruction
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 10:20:26 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231219162026.mzicb22hbwjycpzg@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231121162149.GFZVzZHQB1g2bdvJie@fat_crate.local>

On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 05:21:49PM +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 08:27:40AM -0500, Michael Roth wrote:
> > +static int rmpupdate(u64 pfn, struct rmp_state *val)
> 
> rmp_state *state
> 
> so that it is clear what this is.
> 
> > +{
> > +	unsigned long paddr = pfn << PAGE_SHIFT;
> > +	int ret, level, npages;
> > +	int attempts = 0;
> > +
> > +	if (!cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_SEV_SNP))
> > +		return -ENXIO;
> > +
> > +	do {
> > +		/* Binutils version 2.36 supports the RMPUPDATE mnemonic. */
> > +		asm volatile(".byte 0xF2, 0x0F, 0x01, 0xFE"
> > +			     : "=a"(ret)
> > +			     : "a"(paddr), "c"((unsigned long)val)
> 
> Add an empty space between the " and the (
> 
> > +			     : "memory", "cc");
> > +
> > +		attempts++;
> > +	} while (ret == RMPUPDATE_FAIL_OVERLAP);
> 
> What's the logic here? Loop as long as it says "overlap"?
> 
> How "transient" is that overlapping condition?
> 
> What's the upper limit of that loop?
> 
> This loop should check a generously chosen upper limit of attempts and
> then break if that limit is reached.

We've raised similar questions to David Kaplan and discussed this to a
fair degree.

The transient condition here is due to firmware locking the 2MB-aligned
RMP entry for the range to handle atomic updates. There is no upper bound
on retries or the amount of time spent, but it is always transient since
multiple hypervisor implementations now depend on this and any deviation
from this assurance would constitute a firmware regression.

A good torture test for this path is lots of 4K-only guests doing
concurrent boot/shutdowns in a tight loop. With week-long runs the
longest delay seen was on the order of 100ns, but there's no real 
correlation between time spent and number of retries, sometimes
100ns delays only involve 1 retry, sometimes much smaller time delays
involve hundreds of retries, and it all depends on what firmware is
doing, so there's no way to infer a safe retry limit based on that
data.

All that said, there are unfortunately other conditions that can
trigger non-transient RMPUPDATE_FAIL_OVERLAP failures, and these will
result in an infinite loop. Those are the result of host misbehavior
however, like trying to set up 2MB private RMP entries when there are
already private 4K entries in the range. Ideally these would be separate
error codes, but even if that were changed in firmware we'd still need
code to support older firmwares that don't disambiguate so not sure this
situation can be improved much.

> 
> > +	if (ret) {
> > +		pr_err("RMPUPDATE failed after %d attempts, ret: %d, pfn: %llx, npages: %d, level: %d\n",
> > +		       attempts, ret, pfn, npages, level);
> 
> You're dumping here uninitialized stack variables npages and level.
> Looks like leftover from some prior version of this function.

Yah, I'll clean this up. I think logging the attempts probably doesn't
have much use anymore either.

> 
> > +		sev_dump_rmpentry(pfn);
> > +		dump_stack();
> 
> This is going to become real noisy on a huge machine with a lot of SNP
> guests.

Since the transient case will eventually resolve to ret==0, we will only
get here on a kernel oops sort of condition where a stack dump seems
appropriate. rmpupdate() shouldn't error during normal operation, and if
it ever does it will likely be a fatal situation where those stack dumps
will be useful.

Thanks,

Mike

> 
> Thx.
> 
> -- 
> Regards/Gruss,
>     Boris.
> 
> https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-19 21:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-16 13:27 [PATCH v10 00/50] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Hypervisor Support Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 01/50] KVM: SVM: INTERCEPT_RDTSCP is never intercepted anyway Michael Roth
2023-10-16 15:12   ` Greg KH
2023-10-16 15:14     ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-10-16 15:21       ` Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 02/50] KVM: SVM: Fix TSC_AUX virtualization setup Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 03/50] KVM: SEV: Do not intercept accesses to MSR_IA32_XSS for SEV-ES guests Michael Roth
2023-12-13 12:50   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-12-13 17:30     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-12-13 17:40       ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 04/50] x86/cpufeatures: Add SEV-SNP CPU feature Michael Roth
2023-12-13 12:51   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-12-13 13:13     ` Borislav Petkov
2023-12-13 13:31       ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-12-13 13:36         ` Borislav Petkov
2023-12-13 13:40           ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-12-13 13:49             ` Borislav Petkov
2023-12-13 14:18               ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-12-13 15:41                 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-12-13 17:35                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-12-13 18:53                     ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 05/50] x86/speculation: Do not enable Automatic IBRS if SEV SNP is enabled Michael Roth
2023-10-25 17:33   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-27 21:50   ` Dave Hansen
2023-12-13 12:52   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 06/50] x86/sev: Add the host SEV-SNP initialization support Michael Roth
2023-10-25 18:19   ` Tom Lendacky
2023-11-07 16:31   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-11-07 18:32     ` Tom Lendacky
2023-11-07 19:13       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-11-08  8:21       ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-11-08 15:19         ` Tom Lendacky
2023-11-07 19:00     ` Kalra, Ashish
2023-11-07 19:19       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-11-07 20:27         ` Borislav Petkov
2023-11-07 21:21           ` Kalra, Ashish
2023-11-07 21:27             ` Borislav Petkov
2023-11-07 22:08               ` Borislav Petkov
2023-11-07 22:33                 ` Kalra, Ashish
2023-11-08  6:14                   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-11-08  9:11                     ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-11-08 19:53                     ` Kalra, Ashish
2023-12-08 17:09       ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2023-12-08 23:21         ` Kalra, Ashish
2023-12-20  7:07     ` Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 07/50] x86/sev: Add RMP entry lookup helpers Michael Roth
2023-11-14 14:24   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-12-19  3:31     ` Michael Roth
2024-01-09 22:07       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 08/50] x86/fault: Add helper for dumping RMP entries Michael Roth
2023-11-15 16:08   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-12-19  6:08     ` Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 09/50] x86/traps: Define RMP violation #PF error code Michael Roth
2023-10-16 14:14   ` Dave Hansen
2023-10-16 14:55     ` Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 10/50] x86/fault: Report RMP page faults for kernel addresses Michael Roth
2023-11-21 15:23   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 11/50] x86/sev: Add helper functions for RMPUPDATE and PSMASH instruction Michael Roth
2023-11-21 16:21   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-12-19 16:20     ` Michael Roth [this message]
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 12/50] x86/sev: Invalidate pages from the direct map when adding them to the RMP table Michael Roth
2023-11-24 14:20   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 13/50] crypto: ccp: Define the SEV-SNP commands Michael Roth
2023-11-24 14:36   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 14/50] crypto: ccp: Add support to initialize the AMD-SP for SEV-SNP Michael Roth
2023-11-27  9:59   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-11-30  2:13     ` Kalra, Ashish
2023-12-06 17:08       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-12-06 20:35         ` Kalra, Ashish
2023-12-09 16:20           ` Borislav Petkov
2023-12-11 21:11             ` Kalra, Ashish
2023-12-12  6:52               ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 15/50] crypto: ccp: Provide API to issue SEV and SNP commands Michael Roth
2023-12-06 20:21   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 16/50] x86/sev: Introduce snp leaked pages list Michael Roth
2023-12-06 20:42   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-12-08 20:54     ` Kalra, Ashish
2023-12-07 16:20   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-12-08 22:10     ` Kalra, Ashish
2023-12-11 13:08       ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-12-12 23:26         ` Kalra, Ashish
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 17/50] crypto: ccp: Handle the legacy TMR allocation when SNP is enabled Michael Roth
2023-12-08 13:05   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-12-19 23:46     ` Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 18/50] crypto: ccp: Handle the legacy SEV command " Michael Roth
2023-12-09 15:36   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-12-29 21:38     ` Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 19/50] crypto: ccp: Add the SNP_PLATFORM_STATUS command Michael Roth
2023-12-12 16:45   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 20/50] KVM: SEV: Select CONFIG_KVM_SW_PROTECTED_VM when CONFIG_KVM_AMD_SEV=y Michael Roth
2023-12-13 12:54   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-12-29 21:41     ` Michael Roth
2023-12-18 10:13   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-12-29 21:40     ` Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 21/50] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle AP reset MSR protocol Michael Roth
2023-12-12 17:02   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 22/50] KVM: SEV: Add GHCB handling for Hypervisor Feature Support requests Michael Roth
2023-12-18 10:23   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 23/50] KVM: SEV: Make AVIC backing, VMSA and VMCB memory allocation SNP safe Michael Roth
2023-12-11 13:24   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-12-12  0:00     ` Kalra, Ashish
2023-12-13 13:31   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-12-13 18:45   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-12-18 14:57   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 24/50] KVM: SEV: Add initial SEV-SNP support Michael Roth
2023-12-18 17:43   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 25/50] KVM: SEV: Add KVM_SNP_INIT command Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 26/50] KVM: SEV: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_START command Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 27/50] KVM: Add HVA range operator Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 28/50] KVM: SEV: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_UPDATE command Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 29/50] KVM: SEV: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_FINISH command Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:27 ` [PATCH v10 30/50] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle GHCB GPA register VMGEXIT Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 31/50] KVM: SEV: Add KVM_EXIT_VMGEXIT Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 32/50] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle MSR based Page State Change VMGEXIT Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 33/50] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle " Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 34/50] KVM: x86: Export the kvm_zap_gfn_range() for the SNP use Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 35/50] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle RMP nested page faults Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 36/50] KVM: SEV: Use a VMSA physical address variable for populating VMCB Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 37/50] KVM: SEV: Support SEV-SNP AP Creation NAE event Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 38/50] KVM: SEV: Add support for GHCB-based termination requests Michael Roth
2023-10-19 12:20   ` Liam Merwick
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 39/50] KVM: SEV: Implement gmem hook for initializing private pages Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 40/50] KVM: SEV: Implement gmem hook for invalidating " Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 41/50] KVM: x86: Add gmem hook for determining max NPT mapping level Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 42/50] KVM: SEV: Avoid WBINVD for HVA-based MMU notifications for SNP Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 43/50] KVM: SVM: Add module parameter to enable the SEV-SNP Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 44/50] iommu/amd: Add IOMMU_SNP_SHUTDOWN support Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 45/50] iommu/amd: Report all cases inhibiting SNP enablement Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 46/50] crypto: ccp: Add the SNP_{SET,GET}_EXT_CONFIG command Michael Roth
2023-10-16 23:11   ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 47/50] x86/sev: Add KVM commands for per-instance certs Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 48/50] KVM: SEV: Provide support for SNP_GUEST_REQUEST NAE event Michael Roth
2023-10-16 23:18   ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2023-10-17 16:27     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-18  2:28       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2023-10-18 13:48         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-18 20:27           ` Kalra, Ashish
2023-10-18 20:38             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-18 21:27               ` Kalra, Ashish
2023-10-18 21:43                 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-19  2:48           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2023-10-19 14:57             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-19 23:55               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2023-10-20  0:13                 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-20  0:43                   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2023-10-20 15:13                     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-20 18:37             ` Tom Lendacky
2023-11-10 22:07           ` Michael Roth
2023-11-10 22:47             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-16  5:31               ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2023-12-05  0:30                 ` Dan Williams
2023-12-05  0:48                   ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2023-12-05 20:06                     ` Dan Williams
2023-12-05 22:04                       ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2023-12-05 23:11                         ` Dan Williams
2023-12-06  0:43                           ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 49/50] crypto: ccp: Add debug support for decrypting pages Michael Roth
2023-10-16 13:28 ` [PATCH v10 50/50] crypto: ccp: Add panic notifier for SEV/SNP firmware shutdown on kdump Michael Roth

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