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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Trace Devel <linux-trace-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Ajay Kaher <ajay.kaher@broadcom.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] eventfs: Have inodes have unique inode numbers
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2024 16:19:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240128161935.417d36b3@rorschach.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whKJ6dzQJX27gvL4Xug5bFRKW7_Cx4XpngMKmWxOtb+Qg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 12:53:31 -0800
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> Honestly, you should just *always* do refcounting. No "free after RCU
> delay" as an alternative. Just refcount it.
> 
> Now, the RCU delay may be needed if the lookup of said structure
> happens under RCU, but no, saying "I use SRCU to make sure the
> lifetime is at least X" is just broken.
> 
> The refcount is what gives the lifetime. Any form of RCU-delaying
> should then be purely about non-refcounting RCU lookups that may
> happen as the thing is dying (and said lookup should *look* at the
> refcount and say "oh, this is dead, I'm not returning this".

The deleting of the ei is done outside the VFS logic. I use SRCU to
synchronize looking at the ei children in the lookup. On deletion, I
grab the eventfs_mutex, set ei->is_freed and then wait for SRCU to
finish before freeing.

The lookup checks ei->is_freed and doesn't do anything if set, but most
that logic is under the SRCU, which is what I want to make sure is
finished before the ei is deleted.

Hmm, I still need the logic for iput(), as dentry->d_fsdata can still
access the ei. That's where I need to have the ref counters. For a
lookup, I need to up the ref count when I create a new inode for the ei
or its children. Then in the iput() I decrement the ei ref count. I can
only free the ei if the ref count is zero.

The ref count is for knowing if an ei is referenced by a
dentry->d_fsdata, and the SRCU is to make sure there's no lookups
accessing an ei.

-- Steve

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-28 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-26 20:02 [PATCH] eventfs: Have inodes have unique inode numbers Steven Rostedt
2024-01-26 20:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-26 21:26   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-26 21:31     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-26 21:43       ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-26 21:36     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-26 21:42       ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-26 21:49       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-26 22:08         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-26 22:26           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-27 14:47             ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-28 14:42               ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-26 22:14         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-01-26 22:29           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-26 22:41             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-01-26 22:49               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-29 16:00                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-01-29 18:58                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-26 22:34           ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-26 22:40             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-01-26 22:48             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-26 23:04               ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-26 23:11                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-26 23:17                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-27  9:36                     ` Andreas Schwab
2024-01-27 21:47         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-28 20:15           ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-28 20:53             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-28 21:08               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-28 22:01                 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-28 22:17                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-28 22:26                     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-28 21:11               ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-28 21:19               ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2024-01-28 21:43                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-28 22:07                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-28 22:17                     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-28 22:25                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-28 22:51           ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-28 23:24             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-28 23:59               ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-29  0:21                 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-29  1:00                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-29  1:42                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-29  2:32                       ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-29  3:40                         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-29  4:01                           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-29  2:09                     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-29  6:44                       ` Amir Goldstein
2024-01-29  9:32                         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-01-27 15:26       ` David Laight
2024-01-27 20:01         ` Linus Torvalds

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