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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Albert Cahalan <acahalan@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
Subject: Re: JIT emulator needs
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 09:09:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4669009E.3000702@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <787b0d920706072335v10d6025cwe1437194b6c60d84@mail.gmail.com>

Albert Cahalan a écrit :
> Right now, Linux isn't all that friendly to JIT emulators.
> Here are the problems and suggestions to improve the situation.
> 
> There is an SE Linux execmem restriction that enforces W^X.
> Assuming you don't wish to just disable SE Linux, there are
> two ugly ways around the problem. You can mmap a file twice,
> or you can abuse SysV shared memory. The mmap method requires
> that you know of a filesystem mounted rw,exec where you can
> write a very large temporary file. This arbitrary filesystem,
> rather than swap space, will be the backing store. The SysV
> shared memory method requires an undocumented flag and is
> subject to some annoying size limits. Both methods create
> objects that will fail to be deleted if the program dies
> before marking the objects for deletion.
> 
> Processors often have annoying limits on the immediate values
> in instructions. An x86 or x86_64 JIT can go a bit faster if
> all allocations are kept to the low 2 GB of address space.
> There are also reasons for a 32bit-to-x86_64 JIT to chose
> a nearly arbitrary 2 GB region that lies above 4 GB.
> Other archs have other limits, such as 32 MB or 256 MB.
> 
> Sometimes it is very helpful to have the read/write mapping
> be a fixed offset from the read/exec mapping. A power of 2
> can be especially desirable.
> 
> Emulators often need a cheap way to change page permissions.
> One VMA per page is no good. Besides taking up space and making
> many things generally slower, having one VMA per page causes
> a huge performance loss for snapshot roll-back operations.
> Just tearing down all those VMAs takes a good while.
> 
> Additions to better support JIT emulators:
> 
> a. sysctl to set IPC_RMID by default

Not very good, this will break some apps.

> b. shmget() flag to set IPC_RMID by default

This is better :)

> c. open() flag to unlink a file before returning the fd


Well, I assume you would like fd = open("/path/somefile", O_RDWR | O_CREAT | 
O_UNLINK, 0644)

(ie allocate a file handle but no name ?)

Quite difficult to implement this atomically with current vfs, maybe a new 
syscall would be better. (Linus will kill me for that :) )

(We dont need to insert "somefile" in one directory, then unlink it, we only 
need to allocate an unnamed inode to get some backing store)

This is a generalization of anonymous inodes ( fs/anon_inodes.c  )



  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-08  7:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-08  6:35 JIT emulator needs Albert Cahalan
2007-06-08  7:09 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2007-06-09  4:12   ` Albert Cahalan
2007-06-08 11:10 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-08 16:35   ` Nicholas Miell
2007-06-09  5:17   ` Albert Cahalan
2007-06-09 20:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-19 15:08 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-20  3:16   ` Albert Cahalan
2007-06-20 16:01     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-20 16:37       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-20 17:54         ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-20 18:23           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-20 18:25         ` Albert Cahalan
2007-06-20 18:51           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-21  3:21             ` Albert Cahalan
2007-06-21  3:32               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-21  7:38                 ` Albert Cahalan
2007-06-20 18:43       ` Albert Cahalan
2007-06-23  3:52   ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-24  4:14     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-21 17:44 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-22  5:56   ` Albert Cahalan
2007-06-22 13:43     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-22 14:32       ` Albert Cahalan
2007-06-22 14:42         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-23  2:30           ` Albert Cahalan
     [not found] <8tGiE-2Hv-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <8xNvm-2Tw-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <8xYTM-3So-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-06-21 11:08     ` Bodo Eggert

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