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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Andy Lutomirski' <luto@amacapital.net>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Subject: RE: [RFC][PATCH 01/22] x86 user stack frame reads: switch to explicit __get_user()
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 17:41:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <489c9af889954649b3453e350bab6464@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrX=nXN14fqu-yEMGwwN-vdSz=-0C3gcOMucmxrCUpevdA@mail.gmail.com>

From: Andy Lutomirski
> Sent: 29 March 2020 17:51
..
> My incliniation is to just get rid of the __get_user()-style APIs.
> There shouldn't be any __get_user() calls that can't be directly
> replaced by get_user(), and a single integer comparison is not that
> expensive.  On SMAP systems, the speedup of __get_user vs get_user is
> negligible.

On x86-64 (at least) __get_user() is inlined but get_user() isn't.
Since get_user() has to return two values, one will always be
a (usually) on-stack real memory location rather than a register.
For frequently use code paths this may be measurable.
I'm thinking of things like epoll_wait() writing out events.
(although that is a put_user() loop...)

It may be worth implementing get_user() as an inline
function that writes the result of access_ok() to a
'by reference' parameter and then returns the value
from an 'real' __get_user() function.
The compiler will then optimise away the memory reference.

	David

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-03-29 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-23 18:36 [RFC][PATCHSET] x86 uaccess cleanups Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/22] x86 user stack frame reads: switch to explicit __get_user() Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:37   ` [RFC][PATCH 02/22] x86 kvm page table walks: " Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 03/22] x86: switch sigframe sigset handling to explict __get_user()/__put_user() Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 04/22] x86: get rid of small constant size cases in raw_copy_{to,from}_user() Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 05/22] vm86: get rid of get_user_ex() use Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 06/22] x86: get rid of get_user_ex() in ia32_restore_sigcontext() Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 07/22] x86: get rid of get_user_ex() in restore_sigcontext() Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 08/22] x86: kill get_user_{try,catch,ex} Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 09/22] x86: switch save_v86_state() to unsafe_put_user() Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 10/22] x86: switch setup_sigcontext() " Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 11/22] x86: switch ia32_setup_sigcontext() " Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 12/22] x86: get rid of put_user_try in {ia32,x32}_setup_rt_frame() Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 13/22] x86: ia32_setup_sigcontext(): lift user_access_{begin,end}() into the callers Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:53     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-23 21:42       ` Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 14/22] x86: ia32_setup_frame(): consolidate uaccess areas Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 15/22] x86: ia32_setup_rt_frame(): " Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 16/22] x86: get rid of put_user_try in __setup_rt_frame() (both 32bit and 64bit) Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 17/22] x86: setup_sigcontext(): list user_access_{begin,end}() into callers Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 18/22] x86: __setup_frame(): consolidate uaccess areas Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 19/22] x86: __setup_rt_frame(): " Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 20/22] x86: x32_setup_rt_frame(): " Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 21/22] x86: unsafe_put_... macros for sigcontext and sigmask Al Viro
2020-03-23 18:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 22/22] kill uaccess_try() Al Viro
2020-03-24 15:15   ` [RFC][PATCH 01/22] x86 user stack frame reads: switch to explicit __get_user() Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-28 10:48   ` Ingo Molnar
2020-03-28 11:59     ` Al Viro
2020-03-29  9:26       ` Ingo Molnar
2020-03-29 16:50         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-03-29 17:05           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-29 17:41           ` David Laight [this message]
2020-03-29 17:56             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-29 18:03               ` David Laight
2020-03-29 18:16                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-29 18:32                   ` David Laight
2020-03-29 18:55                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-29 21:21                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-03-29 22:06                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-29 22:12                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-29 18:16               ` Al Viro
2020-03-29 18:19                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-29 17:57         ` Al Viro
2020-03-30 15:54           ` David Laight
2020-03-23 19:16 ` [RFC][PATCHSET] x86 uaccess cleanups Linus Torvalds
2020-03-27  2:24 ` [RFC][PATCHSET v2] " Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:26   ` Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:30     ` Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31       ` [RFC][PATCH v2 01/22] x86 user stack frame reads: switch to explicit __get_user() Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 02/22] x86 kvm page table walks: " Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 03/22] x86: switch sigframe sigset handling to explict __get_user()/__put_user() Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 04/22] x86: get rid of small constant size cases in raw_copy_{to,from}_user() Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 05/22] vm86: get rid of get_user_ex() use Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 06/22] x86: get rid of get_user_ex() in ia32_restore_sigcontext() Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 07/22] x86: get rid of get_user_ex() in restore_sigcontext() Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 08/22] x86: kill get_user_{try,catch,ex} Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 09/22] x86: switch save_v86_state() to unsafe_put_user() Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 10/22] x86: switch setup_sigcontext() " Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 11/22] x86: switch ia32_setup_sigcontext() " Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 12/22] x86: get rid of put_user_try in {ia32,x32}_setup_rt_frame() Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 13/22] x86: ia32_setup_sigcontext(): lift user_access_{begin,end}() into the callers Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 14/22] x86: ia32_setup_frame(): consolidate uaccess areas Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 15/22] x86: ia32_setup_rt_frame(): " Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 16/22] x86: get rid of put_user_try in __setup_rt_frame() (both 32bit and 64bit) Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:32         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 17/22] x86: setup_sigcontext(): list user_access_{begin,end}() into callers Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:32         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 18/22] x86: __setup_frame(): consolidate uaccess areas Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:32         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 19/22] x86: __setup_rt_frame(): " Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:32         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 20/22] x86: x32_setup_rt_frame(): " Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:32         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 21/22] x86: unsafe_put-style macro for sigmask Al Viro
2020-03-27  2:32         ` [RFC][PATCH v2 22/22] kill uaccess_try() Al Viro

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