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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] zsmalloc use zs_handle instead of void *
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 08:24:43 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FAC4E3B.3030909@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120510173322.GA30481@phenom.dumpdata.com>

On 05/11/2012 02:33 AM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:

> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 01:24:36PM -0400, Nitin Gupta wrote:
>> On 5/10/12 12:44 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:29:41PM -0400, Nitin Gupta wrote:
>>>> On 5/10/12 11:19 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:11:27AM -0500, Seth Jennings wrote:
>>>>>> On 05/10/2012 09:47 AM, Nitin Gupta wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/10/12 10:02 AM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>>>>>>>> struct zs {
>>>>>>>>     void *ptr;
>>>>>>>> };
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And pass that structure around?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A minor problem is that we store this handle value in a radix tree node.
>>>>>>> If we wrap it as a struct, then we will not be able to store it directly
>>>>>>> in the node -- the node will have to point to a 'struct zs'. This will
>>>>>>> unnecessarily waste sizeof(void *) for every object stored.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think so. You can use the fact that for a struct zs var,&var
>>>>>> and&var->ptr are the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the structure above:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> void * zs_to_void(struct zs *p) { return p->ptr; }
>>>>>> struct zs * void_to_zs(void *p) { return (struct zs *)p; }
>>>>>
>>>>> Do like what the rest of the kernel does and pass around *ptr and use
>>>>> container_of to get 'struct zs'.  Yes, they resolve to the same pointer
>>>>> right now, but you shouldn't "expect" to to be the same.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think we can just use unsigned long as zs handle type since all we
>>>> have to do is tell the user that the returned value is not a
>>>> pointer. This will be less pretty than a typedef but still better
>>>> than a single entry struct + container_of stuff.
>>>
>>> But then you are casting the thing all around just as much as you were
>>> with the void *, right?
>>>
>>> Making this a "real" structure ensures type safety and lets the compiler
>>> find the problems you accidentally create at times :)
>>>
>>
>> If we return a 'struct zs' from zs_malloc then I cannot see how we
>> are solving the original problem of storing the handle directly in a
>> radix node. If we pass a struct zs we will require pointing radix
>> node to this struct, wasting sizeof(void *) for every object.   If
>> we pass unsigned long, then this problem is solved and it also makes
>> it clear that the passed value is not a pointer.
> 
> It is the same size: sizeof(struct zs) == sizeof(void *).
> When you return the 'struct zs' it will be as if you are returning 
> a void * pointer.
> 


Please look.

struct zs_handle {
	void *handle
};

1)

static struct zv_hdr *zv_create(..)
{
	struct zs_handle handle;
	..
	handle = zs_malloc(pool, size);
	..
	return handle;
}

handle is on stack so it can't be used by index for slot of radix tree.

2)

static struct zv_hdr *zv_create(..)
{
	struct zs_handle handle;
	..
	handle = zs_malloc(pool, size);
	..
	return handle.handle;
}

Okay. Now it works but zcache coupled with zsmalloc tightly.
User of zsmalloc should never know internal of zs_handle.

3)

- zsmalloc.h
void *zs_handle_to_ptr(struct zs_handle handle)
{
	return handle.hanle;
}

static struct zv_hdr *zv_create(..)
{
	struct zs_handle handle;
	..
	handle = zs_malloc(pool, size);
	..
	return zs_handle_to_ptr(handle);
}

Why should zsmalloc support such interface?
It's a zcache problem so it's desriable to solve it in zcache internal.
And in future, if we can add/remove zs_handle's fields, we can't make
sure such API.


>> Its true that making it a real struct would prevent accidental casts
>> to void * but due to the above problem, I think we have to stick
>> with unsigned long.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nitin
> 
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Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-10 23:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-03  6:40 [PATCH 1/4] zsmalloc: rename zspage_order with zspage_pages Minchan Kim
2012-05-03  6:40 ` [PATCH 2/4] zsmalloc: add/fix function comment Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 13:19   ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-03  6:40 ` [PATCH 3/4] zsmalloc use zs_handle instead of void * Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 13:32   ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-03 15:23     ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-04  2:24       ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-07 15:01         ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-09 20:19         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10  2:03           ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 14:02             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-10 14:12               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10 14:47               ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-10 15:00                 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 15:11                 ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-10 15:19                   ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 15:19                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10 16:29                     ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-10 16:44                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10 17:24                         ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-10 17:33                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-10 23:24                             ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2012-05-10 23:50                               ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-11  0:14                                 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11 16:31                                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-11 19:29                                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-11 21:49                                     ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-14  2:26                                       ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11 19:28                               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-14  2:18                                 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-15  1:57                                   ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-15  2:21                                     ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-15 15:04                                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-16  1:36                                     ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-16 11:06                                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-03  6:40 ` [PATCH 4/4] zsmalloc: zsmalloc: align cache line size Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 13:58   ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-04  2:27     ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-07  7:41       ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-07 12:40         ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-08  1:34           ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-08 14:00             ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-09  0:58               ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-09  3:08                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-09  4:07                   ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11  0:03                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-11  0:25                   ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11 19:06                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-14  1:55                       ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-15 15:18                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-16  1:44                           ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 13:18 ` [PATCH 1/4] zsmalloc: rename zspage_order with zspage_pages Nitin Gupta

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