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From: Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] zsmalloc use zs_handle instead of void *
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 21:57:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPkvG_dTA7HwzVBo70bZuqkX+ZfjJpS+p4L9L+jF4Uz1ooEx0Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FB06B91.1080008@kernel.org>

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:
> On 05/12/2012 04:28 AM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>
>>> Please look.
>>>
>>> struct zs_handle {
>>>      void *handle
>>> };
>>>
>>> 1)
>>>
>>> static struct zv_hdr *zv_create(..)
>>> {
>>>      struct zs_handle handle;
>>>      ..
>>>      handle = zs_malloc(pool, size);
>>>      ..
>>>      return handle;
>>
>> Compiler will complain that you are returning incorrect type.
>
>
> My bad. &handle.
>
>>
>>> }
>>>
>>> handle is on stack so it can't be used by index for slot of radix tree.
>>
>> The fix is of course to return a pointer (which your function
>> declared), and instead do this:
>>
>> {
>>       struct zs_handle *handle;
>>
>>       handle = zs_malloc(pool, size);
>
>
> It's not a good idea.
> For it, zs_malloc needs memory space to keep zs_handle internally.
> Why should zsallocator do it? Just for zcache?
> It's not good abstraction.
>
>
>>       return handle;
>> }
>>
>>>
>>> 2)
>>>
>>> static struct zv_hdr *zv_create(..)
>>> {
>>>      struct zs_handle handle;
>>>      ..
>>>      handle = zs_malloc(pool, size);
>>>      ..
>>>      return handle.handle;
>>> }
>>>
>>> Okay. Now it works but zcache coupled with zsmalloc tightly.
>>> User of zsmalloc should never know internal of zs_handle.
>>
>> OK. Then it can just forward declare it:
>>
>> struct zs_handle;
>>
>> and zsmalloc will treat it as an opaque pointer.
>>
>>>
>>> 3)
>>>
>>> - zsmalloc.h
>>> void *zs_handle_to_ptr(struct zs_handle handle)
>>> {
>>>      return handle.hanle;
>>> }
>>>
>>> static struct zv_hdr *zv_create(..)
>>> {
>>>      struct zs_handle handle;
>>>      ..
>>>      handle = zs_malloc(pool, size);
>>>      ..
>>>      return zs_handle_to_ptr(handle);
>>
>>> }
>>
>>>
>>> Why should zsmalloc support such interface?
>>
>> Why not? It is better than a 'void *' or a typedef.
>>
>> It is modeled after a pte_t.
>
>
> It's not same with pte_t.
> We normally don't use pte_val to (void*) for unique index of slot.
> The problem is that zcache assume handle of zsmalloc is a sizeof(void*)'s
> unique value but zcache never assume it's a sizeof(void*).
>
>>
>>
>>> It's a zcache problem so it's desriable to solve it in zcache internal.
>>
>> Not really. We shouldn't really pass any 'void *' pointers around.
>>
>>> And in future, if we can add/remove zs_handle's fields, we can't make
>>> sure such API.
>>
>> Meaning ... what exactly do you mean? That the size of the structure
>> will change and we won't return the right value? Why not?
>> If you use the 'zs_handle_to_ptr' won't that work? Especially if you
>> add new values to the end of the struct it won't cause issues.
>
>
> I mean we might change zs_handle to following as, in future.
> (It's insane but who know it?)
>
> struct zs_handle {
>        int upper;
>        int middle;
>        int lower;
> };
>
> How could you handle this for zs_handle_to_ptr?
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Its true that making it a real struct would prevent accidental casts
>>>>> to void * but due to the above problem, I think we have to stick
>>>>> with unsigned long.
>>
>> So the problem you are seeing is that you don't want 'struct zs_handle'
>> be present in the drivers/staging/zsmalloc/zsmalloc.h header file?
>> It looks like the proper place.
>
>
> No. What I want is to remove coupling zsallocator's handle with zram/zcache.
> They shouldn't know internal of handle and assume it's a pointer.
>
> If Nitin confirm zs_handle's format can never change in future, I prefer "unsigned long" Nitin suggested than (void *).
> It can prevent confusion that normal allocator's return value is pointer for address so the problem is easy.
> But I am not sure he can make sure it.
>

zs_handle will always be an unsigned long so its better to just use
the same as return type.

Another alternative is to return 'struct zs_handle *' which can be
used as a 'void *' by zcache and as unsigned long by zsmalloc.
However, I see no good reason for preferring this over simple unsigned
long as the return type.

Thanks,
Nitin

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-15  1:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-03  6:40 [PATCH 1/4] zsmalloc: rename zspage_order with zspage_pages Minchan Kim
2012-05-03  6:40 ` [PATCH 2/4] zsmalloc: add/fix function comment Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 13:19   ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-03  6:40 ` [PATCH 3/4] zsmalloc use zs_handle instead of void * Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 13:32   ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-03 15:23     ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-04  2:24       ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-07 15:01         ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-09 20:19         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10  2:03           ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 14:02             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-10 14:12               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10 14:47               ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-10 15:00                 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 15:11                 ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-10 15:19                   ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 15:19                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10 16:29                     ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-10 16:44                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10 17:24                         ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-10 17:33                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-10 23:24                             ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 23:50                               ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-11  0:14                                 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11 16:31                                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-11 19:29                                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-11 21:49                                     ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-14  2:26                                       ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11 19:28                               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-14  2:18                                 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-15  1:57                                   ` Nitin Gupta [this message]
2012-05-15  2:21                                     ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-15 15:04                                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-16  1:36                                     ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-16 11:06                                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-03  6:40 ` [PATCH 4/4] zsmalloc: zsmalloc: align cache line size Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 13:58   ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-04  2:27     ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-07  7:41       ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-07 12:40         ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-08  1:34           ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-08 14:00             ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-09  0:58               ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-09  3:08                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-09  4:07                   ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11  0:03                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-11  0:25                   ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11 19:06                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-14  1:55                       ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-15 15:18                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-16  1:44                           ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 13:18 ` [PATCH 1/4] zsmalloc: rename zspage_order with zspage_pages Nitin Gupta

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