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From: "Bartłomiej Zimoń" <uzi18@o2.pl>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notification from module
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 23:34:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5c6ee5a9.5b103961.4b3fc9de.b6cf4@o2.pl> (raw)

Dnia 2 stycznia 2010 22:01 "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> napisał(a):

> On Saturday 02 January 2010, Bartłomiej Zimoń wrote:
> > Dnia 2 stycznia 2010 16:56 	Daniel Borkmann <danborkmann@googlemail.com> napisał(a):
> > > Hi Andy,
> > > 
> > > 2010/1/2 Andy Walls <awalls@radix.net>:
> > > > Why not:
> > > >
> > > > a. write a module that implements a device node that supports poll(),
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > > b. have a user space process select() on the fd for read or exception
> > > > notification
> > > >
> > > > ?
> > > 
> > > This is, of course, another possible solution that is more "cleaner"
> > > than the one with the signals.
> > > Then, your userspace program would have another thread polling for the
> > > device node. Question is which timeout would be appropriate to be "CPU
> > > friendly" and to keep notification latency short?
> > > 
> > 
> > Just need as fast as possible solution and on the other hand acceptable for kernel sources.
> > Usually programs needs just to disconnect something or set one flag.
> > Even if program will have no time for this it could be enough just to send this precious info.
> 
> Perhaps I don't understand correctly what you're trying to achieve, but at the
> moment suspend is always started from user space, this way or another, and on
> the majority (all?) of the modern distros pm-utils is involved in that.
> So, why don't you provide a pm-utils hook for your process (like, for example,
> NetworkManager)?
> 

Thanks for Your answare.
Some points of my idea:
- don't think everyone want to use pm-utils (didn't say it is bad)
- this code is standard for all implementation of suspend/hibernate/resume
- it is small
- it have less overhead, dont need dbus and all rest services.
- could be even used partialy by pm-utils
- it is perfect just to notify about event

Some opposits:
- program will have less time to do what it want than with pm-utils
- all rest

Please correct me if i'm wrong.

Best regards
Bartłomiej Zimoń
PLD Linux, Kadu Team


             reply	other threads:[~2010-01-02 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-02 22:34 Bartłomiej Zimoń [this message]
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2010-01-03 23:17 [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notification from module Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 11:06 Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03  8:31 Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 13:29 Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 14:04 ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 14:27   ` [suspend/resume] " Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 15:11     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]     ` <6f52f5b81001020713j5435cfadr1143806a9026adc2@mail.gmail.com>
2010-01-02 15:15       ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 15:40         ` Andy Walls
2010-01-02 15:56           ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-02 18:26             ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 21:01               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                 ` <7cf4f51f.5fc2a5cd.4b3fc3ad.c849c@o2.pl>
2010-01-02 23:29                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 17:20                     ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 21:50                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                     ` <65e5aef6.33251eb4.4b3fecf4.a2f99@o2.pl>
2010-01-03  9:30                       ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-03 10:06                         ` Daniel Borkmann
     [not found]                           ` <43bd3f9d.71702a8b.4b407900.b542@o2.pl>
2010-01-03 21:49                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04 13:38                               ` Stefan Seyfried
2010-01-03 21:33                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 21:29                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                         ` <24fb84fa.38887c91.4b411ffd.e7f1f@o2.pl>
2010-01-03 23:30                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 23:35                             ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 23:45                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04  0:51                                 ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-04  1:06                                   ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-04 19:43                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-04 12:46                                 ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-04 19:45                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-09 10:32                 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-09 13:40                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-15 20:03                     ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-15 22:14                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16  3:00                         ` Eric Miao
2010-01-16 17:00                           ` Stanislav Brabec
2010-01-16 18:12                             ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:05                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:19                                 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:25                                   ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:31                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:26                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-17 13:07                                     ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-17 13:26                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-01-19  5:15                                         ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:32                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-01-16 18:12                           ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 18:12                         ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:07                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-16 22:14                             ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-16 22:21                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-02 21:20               ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-02 14:31   ` Bartłomiej Zimoń

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