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From: "Lendacky, Thomas" <Thomas.Lendacky@amd.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Li, Aubrey" <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com>,
	Aubrey Li <aubrey.intel@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Drake <drake@endlessm.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Endless Linux Upstreaming Team <linux@endlessm.com>
Subject: Re: setup_boot_APIC_clock() NULL dereference during early boot on reduced hardware platforms
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 21:36:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <75e59ac6-5165-bd0a-aec9-be16d662ece9@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1908082306220.2882@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

Hi Thomas,

On 8/8/19 4:08 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> Tom,
> 
> On Thu, 8 Aug 2019, Lendacky, Thomas wrote:
>> On 8/8/19 3:36 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Lendacky, Thomas wrote:
>>>> On 8/1/19 5:13 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>>>>     2.1.9 Timers
>>>>>
>>>>>      Each core includes the following timers. These timers do not vary in
>>>>>      frequency regardless of the current P-state or C-state.
>>>>>
>>>>>      * Core::X86::Msr::TSC; the TSC increments at the rate specified by the
>>>>>        P0 Pstate. See Core::X86::Msr::PStateDef.
>>>>>
>>>>>      * The APIC timer (Core::X86::Apic::TimerInitialCount and
>>>>>        Core::X86::Apic::TimerCurrentCount), which increments at the rate of
>>>>>        2xCLKIN; the APIC timer may increment in units of between 1 and 8.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Ryzens use a 100MHz input clock for the APIC normally, but I'm not sure
>>>>> whether this is subject to overclocking. If so then it should be possible
>>>>> to figure that out somehow. Tom?
>>>>
>>>> Let me check with the hardware folks and I'll get back to you.
>>>
>>> any update on this? The problem seems to come in from several sides now.
>>
>> Yes, sort of. There are two ways to overclock and it all depends on which
>> one was used. If the overclocking is done by changing the multipliers,
>> then that 100MHz clock will still be 100MHz. But if the overclocking is
>> done by increasing the input clock, then that 100MHz clock will also
>> increase.
>>
>> I was trying to get a bit more clarification on this before replying, but
>> it can be detected in software. The base clock is 100MHz, so read the P0
>> multiplier and the TSC should be counting at P0 * 100MHz. If you calibrate
>> the speed of the TSC with the HPET you can see what speed the TSC is
>> counting at. If you divide the TSC delta from the HPET calibration by the
>> P0 multiplier you will either get 100MHz if there is no overclocking or if
>> the multiplier method of overclocking was used, otherwise you'll get a
>> higher value if the input clock method was used. Either way, that should
>> give you the APIC clock speed based on a starting assumption of 100MHz.
> 
> The problem is that we have no HPET on those machines ....

Sorry about that...  I interpreted the email[1] that said the HPET ACPI
table was present, incorrectly. I get it now, for hardware-reduced ACPI
you can't depend on that table to be present.

Thanks,
Tom

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAD8Lp452GdoL-Bt7rSP=u3RKEZ2H3qm3LvKfe=cCsjP0biG_sQ@mail.gmail.com/
 
> 
> I think I can get away without having HPET and PIT and do some smart stuff
> with the pm timer for that stuff. I'll look at it tomorrow with brain
> actually awake.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	tglx
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-08 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-01  6:24 Daniel Drake
2019-08-01  7:16 ` Aubrey Li
2019-08-01  7:35   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-01  7:56     ` Aubrey Li
2019-08-01  8:13       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-01  8:21         ` Li, Aubrey
2019-08-01 10:13           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-01 15:44             ` Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-08 20:36               ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-08 21:01                 ` Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-08 21:08                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-08 21:36                     ` Lendacky, Thomas [this message]
2019-08-09 12:54                       ` [PATCH] x86/apic: Handle missing global clockevent gracefully Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-09 12:59                         ` Jiri Slaby
2019-08-09 13:58                         ` Lendacky, Thomas
2019-08-09 19:40                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-12  6:16                         ` Daniel Drake
2019-08-12  7:03                           ` Jiri Slaby
2019-08-15  5:02                           ` Daniel Drake
2019-08-12  7:46                         ` Li, Aubrey
2019-08-12 12:24                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-12 12:59                             ` Aubrey Li
2019-08-12 17:11                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-19 10:37                         ` [tip:x86/urgent] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-01  9:00   ` setup_boot_APIC_clock() NULL dereference during early boot on reduced hardware platforms Daniel Drake
2019-08-01 10:17     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-01  7:27 ` Thomas Gleixner

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