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From: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@linux.alibaba.com>
To: paulmck@kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/11] rcu: don't use negative ->rcu_read_lock_nesting
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 09:54:29 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <77222fe8-db55-d09f-e8fd-e6f1a10f9dc3@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191117215339.GD2889@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72>



On 2019/11/18 5:53 上午, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 09:04:56PM +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
>> On 2019/11/1 8:33 下午, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 10:08:03AM +0000, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
>>>> Negative ->rcu_read_lock_nesting was introduced to prevent
>>>> scheduler deadlock which was just prevented by deferred qs.
>>>> So negative ->rcu_read_lock_nesting is useless now and
>>>> rcu_read_unlock() can be simplified.
>>>>
>>>> And negative ->rcu_read_lock_nesting is bug-prone,
>>>> it is good to kill it.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@linux.alibaba.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>    kernel/rcu/tree_exp.h    | 30 ++----------------------------
>>>>    kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h | 21 +++++----------------
>>>>    2 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 44 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree_exp.h b/kernel/rcu/tree_exp.h
>>>> index c0d06bce35ea..9dcbd2734620 100644
>>>> --- a/kernel/rcu/tree_exp.h
>>>> +++ b/kernel/rcu/tree_exp.h
>>>> @@ -621,11 +621,11 @@ static void rcu_exp_handler(void *unused)
>>>>    	 * report the quiescent state, otherwise defer.
>>>>    	 */
>>>>    	if (!t->rcu_read_lock_nesting) {
>>>> +		rdp->exp_deferred_qs = true;
>>>>    		if (!(preempt_count() & (PREEMPT_MASK | SOFTIRQ_MASK)) ||
>>>>    		    rcu_dynticks_curr_cpu_in_eqs()) {
>>>> -			rcu_report_exp_rdp(rdp);
>>>> +			rcu_preempt_deferred_qs(t);
>>>>    		} else {
>>>> -			rdp->exp_deferred_qs = true;
>>>>    			set_tsk_need_resched(t);
>>>>    			set_preempt_need_resched();
>>>>    		}
>>>> @@ -646,32 +646,6 @@ static void rcu_exp_handler(void *unused)
>>>>    		WRITE_ONCE(t->rcu_read_unlock_special.b.exp_hint, true);
>>>>    		return;
>>>>    	}
>>>> -
>>>> -	/*
>>>> -	 * The final and least likely case is where the interrupted
>>>> -	 * code was just about to or just finished exiting the RCU-preempt
>>>> -	 * read-side critical section, and no, we can't tell which.
>>>> -	 * So either way, set ->deferred_qs to flag later code that
>>>> -	 * a quiescent state is required.
>>>> -	 *
>>>> -	 * If the CPU is fully enabled (or if some buggy RCU-preempt
>>>> -	 * read-side critical section is being used from idle), just
>>>> -	 * invoke rcu_preempt_deferred_qs() to immediately report the
>>>> -	 * quiescent state.  We cannot use rcu_read_unlock_special()
>>>> -	 * because we are in an interrupt handler, which will cause that
>>>> -	 * function to take an early exit without doing anything.
>>>> -	 *
>>>> -	 * Otherwise, force a context switch after the CPU enables everything.
>>>> -	 */
>>>> -	rdp->exp_deferred_qs = true;
>>>> -	if (rcu_preempt_need_deferred_qs(t) &&
>>>> -	    (!(preempt_count() & (PREEMPT_MASK | SOFTIRQ_MASK)) ||
>>>> -	    WARN_ON_ONCE(rcu_dynticks_curr_cpu_in_eqs()))) {
>>>> -		rcu_preempt_deferred_qs(t);
>>>> -	} else {
>>>> -		set_tsk_need_resched(t);
>>>> -		set_preempt_need_resched();
>>>> -	}
>>>>    }
>>>>    /* PREEMPTION=y, so no PREEMPTION=n expedited grace period to clean up after. */
>>>> diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h b/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h
>>>> index dbded2b8c792..c62631c79463 100644
>>>> --- a/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h
>>>> +++ b/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h
>>>> @@ -344,8 +344,6 @@ static int rcu_preempt_blocked_readers_cgp(struct rcu_node *rnp)
>>>>    }
>>>>    /* Bias and limit values for ->rcu_read_lock_nesting. */
>>>> -#define RCU_NEST_BIAS INT_MAX
>>>> -#define RCU_NEST_NMAX (-INT_MAX / 2)
>>>>    #define RCU_NEST_PMAX (INT_MAX / 2)
>>>>    /*
>>>> @@ -373,21 +371,15 @@ void __rcu_read_unlock(void)
>>>>    {
>>>>    	struct task_struct *t = current;
>>>> -	if (t->rcu_read_lock_nesting != 1) {
>>>> -		--t->rcu_read_lock_nesting;
>>>> -	} else {
>>>> +	if (--t->rcu_read_lock_nesting == 0) {
>>>>    		barrier();  /* critical section before exit code. */
>>>> -		t->rcu_read_lock_nesting = -RCU_NEST_BIAS;
>>>> -		barrier();  /* assign before ->rcu_read_unlock_special load */
>>>
>>> But if we take an interrupt here, and the interrupt handler contains
>>> an RCU read-side critical section, don't we end up in the same hole
>>> that resulted in this article when the corresponding rcu_read_unlock()
>>> executes?  https://lwn.net/Articles/453002/
>>
>> Hello, Paul
>>
>> I'm replying the email of V1, which is relying on deferred_qs changes
>> in [PATCH 07/11] (V1).
>> ([PATCH 04/11](V1) relies on it too as you pointed out)
>>
>> I hope I can answer the question wrt https://lwn.net/Articles/453002/
>> maybe partially.
>>
>> With the help of deferred_qs mechanism and the special.b.deferred_qs
>> bit, I HOPED rcu_read_unlock_special() can find if itself is
>> risking in scheduler locks via special.b.deferred_qs bit.
>>
>> --t->rcu_read_lock_nesting;
>> //outmost rcu c.s, rcu_read_lock_nesting is 0. but special is not zero
>> INTERRUPT
>>   // the fallowing code will normally be in_interrupt()
>>   // or NOT in_interrupt() when wakeup_softirqd() in invoke_softirq()
>>   // or NOT in_interrupt() when preempt_shedule_irq()
>>   // or other cases I missed.
>>   scheduler_lock()
>>   rcu_read_lock()
>>   rcu_read_unlock()
>>    // special has been set but with no special.b.deferred_qs
>>    rcu_read_unlock_special()
>>     raise_softirq_irqoff()
>>      wake_up() when !in_interrupt() // dead lock
>>
>> preempt_shedule_irq() is guaranteed to clear rcu_read_unlock_special
>> when rcu_read_lock_nesting = 0 before calling into scheduler locks.
>>
>> But, at least, what caused my hope to be failed was the case
>> wakeup_softirqd() in invoke_softirq() (which was once protected by
>> softirq in about 2 years between ec433f0c5152 and facd8b80c67a).
>> I don't think it is hard to fix it if we keep using
>> special.b.deferred_qs as this V1 series.
> 
> It is quite possible that special.b.deferred_qs might be useful
> for debugging.  But it should now be possible to take care of the
> nohz_full issue for expedited grace periods, which might in turn allow
> rcu_read_unlock_special() to avoid acquiring scheduler locks.
> 
> This could avoid the need for negative ->rcu_read_lock_nesting,
> in turn allowing your simplified _rcu_read_unlock().
> 
> Would you like to do the expedited grace-period modifications, or
> would you rather that I do so?
> 

Hello, Paul

To be honest, I didn't known there was special issue about
nohz_full with expedited grace periods until several days before
you told me. I just thought that it is requested to be expedited
so that we need to wake up something to handle it ASAP.

IOW, I'm not in a position to do the expedited grace-period
modifications before I learnt enough about it. I would be very
obliged that you do so. I believe it will be a better solution
than this one or the one in V2 relying on preempt_count.

Thanks
Lai

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-18  1:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-31 10:07 [PATCH 00/11] rcu: introduce percpu rcu_preempt_depth Lai Jiangshan
2019-10-31 10:07 ` [PATCH 01/11] rcu: avoid leaking exp_deferred_qs into next GP Lai Jiangshan
2019-10-31 13:43   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-10-31 18:19     ` Lai Jiangshan
2019-10-31 19:00       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-10-31 10:07 ` [PATCH 02/11] rcu: fix bug when rcu_exp_handler() in nested interrupt Lai Jiangshan
2019-10-31 13:47   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-10-31 14:20     ` Lai Jiangshan
2019-10-31 14:31     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-10-31 15:14       ` Lai Jiangshan
2019-10-31 18:52         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-01  0:19           ` Boqun Feng
2019-11-01  2:29             ` Lai Jiangshan
2019-10-31 10:07 ` [PATCH 03/11] rcu: clean up rcu_preempt_deferred_qs_irqrestore() Lai Jiangshan
2019-10-31 13:52   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-10-31 15:25     ` Lai Jiangshan
2019-10-31 18:57       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-10-31 19:02         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-10-31 10:07 ` [PATCH 04/11] rcu: cleanup rcu_preempt_deferred_qs() Lai Jiangshan
2019-10-31 14:10   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-10-31 14:35     ` Lai Jiangshan
2019-10-31 15:07       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-10-31 18:33         ` Lai Jiangshan
2019-10-31 22:45           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-10-31 10:08 ` [PATCH 05/11] rcu: clean all rcu_read_unlock_special after report qs Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-01 11:54   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-10-31 10:08 ` [PATCH 06/11] rcu: clear t->rcu_read_unlock_special in one go Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-01 12:10   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-01 16:58     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-10-31 10:08 ` [PATCH 07/11] rcu: set special.b.deferred_qs before wake_up() Lai Jiangshan
2019-10-31 10:08 ` [PATCH 08/11] rcu: don't use negative ->rcu_read_lock_nesting Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-01 12:33   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-16 13:04     ` Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-17 21:53       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-18  1:54         ` Lai Jiangshan [this message]
2019-11-18 14:57           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-10-31 10:08 ` [PATCH 09/11] rcu: wrap usages of rcu_read_lock_nesting Lai Jiangshan
2019-10-31 10:08 ` [PATCH 10/11] rcu: clear the special.b.need_qs in rcu_note_context_switch() Lai Jiangshan
2019-10-31 10:08 ` [PATCH 11/11] x86,rcu: use percpu rcu_preempt_depth Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-01 12:58   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-01 13:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-01 14:30       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-01 15:32         ` Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-01 16:21           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-01 15:47       ` Lai Jiangshan

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