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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>,
	Lino Sanfilippo <l.sanfilippo@kunbus.com>,
	Alexander Steffen <Alexander.Steffen@infineon.com>,
	 "Daniel P. Smith" <dpsmith@apertussolutions.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
	 linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Ross Philipson <ross.philipson@oracle.com>,
	Kanth Ghatraju <kanth.ghatraju@oracle.com>,
	Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] tpm: protect against locality counter underflow
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 07:37:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7a7f8f0c1b9d124bfc01b66082abf2d8445564ce.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CZA9GMC718HA.1JFHTTWV563IE@seitikki>

On Tue, 2024-02-20 at 22:31 +0000, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> 
> 2. Because localities are not too useful these days given TPM2's
>    policy mechanism

Localitites are useful to the TPM2 policy mechanism.  When we get key
policy in the kernel it will give us a way to create TPM wrapped keys
that can only be unwrapped in the kernel if we run the kernel in a
different locality from userspace (I already have demo patches doing
this).

>  I cannot recall out of top of my head can
>    you have two localities open at same time.

I think there's a misunderstanding about what localities are: they're
effectively an additional platform supplied tag to a command.  Each
command can therefore have one and only one locality.  The TPM doesn't
have a concept of which locality is open; if you look at the reference
implementation, the simulator has a __plat__LocalitySet() function
which places all commands in the just set locality until you change to
a different one.

However, since the way localities are implemented (i.e. what triggers
_plat__LocalitySet()) is implementation defined, each physical TPM
device has a different way of doing the set (for instance, for TIS
TPM's locality is a function of the port set used to address the TPM;
for CRB TPMs it can be an additional tag on the buffer for command
submission).   I think the locality request/relinquish was modelled
after some other HW, but I don't know what.

James


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-21 12:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20240131170824.6183-1-dpsmith@apertussolutions.com>
2024-01-31 17:08 ` [PATCH 1/3] tpm: protect against locality counter underflow Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-01 22:21   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-02  3:08     ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-12 20:05       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-19 17:54         ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-20 18:42       ` Alexander Steffen
2024-02-20 19:04         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 20:54         ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-20 22:23           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 23:19             ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-21  0:40               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-23  1:58             ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-23 12:58               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-25 11:23                 ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-26  9:39                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 22:26           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 22:31             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 23:26               ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-21  0:42                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-21 12:37               ` James Bottomley [this message]
2024-02-21 19:43                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-21 19:45                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-22  9:06                   ` James Bottomley
2024-02-22 23:49                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-23  1:57                   ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-23 20:40                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-23 20:42                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-23  1:57               ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-23 20:50                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 22:57             ` ross.philipson
2024-02-20 23:10               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 23:13                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-23  1:56           ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-23 20:44             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-24  2:34             ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-26  9:38               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-23  1:55         ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-26 12:43           ` Alexander Steffen
2024-02-24  2:06         ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-23  0:01   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-01-31 17:08 ` [PATCH 2/3] tpm: ensure tpm is in known state at startup Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-01 22:33   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-19 19:17     ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-19 20:17       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-01-31 17:08 ` [PATCH 3/3] tpm: make locality request return value consistent Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-01 22:49   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-19 20:29     ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-19 20:45       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 18:57       ` Alexander Steffen

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