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From: "Jarkko Sakkinen" <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: "Lino Sanfilippo" <LinoSanfilippo@gmx.de>,
	"Lino Sanfilippo" <l.sanfilippo@kunbus.com>,
	"Alexander Steffen" <Alexander.Steffen@infineon.com>,
	"Daniel P. Smith" <dpsmith@apertussolutions.com>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	"Sasha Levin" <sashal@kernel.org>,
	<linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "Ross Philipson" <ross.philipson@oracle.com>,
	"Kanth Ghatraju" <kanth.ghatraju@oracle.com>,
	"Peter Huewe" <peterhuewe@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] tpm: protect against locality counter underflow
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 00:40:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CZAC7U3W7L5A.1JST8CWN3PNND@seitikki> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d482ce6-4318-4e42-ac12-be2a26ef3548@gmx.de>

On Tue Feb 20, 2024 at 11:19 PM UTC, Lino Sanfilippo wrote:
>
>
> On 20.02.24 23:23, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Tue Feb 20, 2024 at 8:54 PM UTC, Lino Sanfilippo wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 20.02.24 19:42, Alexander Steffen wrote:
> >>> ATTENTION: This e-mail is from an external sender. Please check attachments and links before opening e.g. with mouseover.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 02.02.2024 04:08, Lino Sanfilippo wrote:
> >>>> On 01.02.24 23:21, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed Jan 31, 2024 at 7:08 PM EET, Daniel P. Smith wrote:
> >>>>>> Commit 933bfc5ad213 introduced the use of a locality counter to control when a
> >>>>>> locality request is allowed to be sent to the TPM. In the commit, the counter
> >>>>>> is indiscriminately decremented. Thus creating a situation for an integer
> >>>>>> underflow of the counter.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What is the sequence of events that leads to this triggering the
> >>>>> underflow? This information should be represent in the commit message.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> AFAIU this is:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. We start with a locality_counter of 0 and then we call tpm_tis_request_locality()
> >>>> for the first time, but since a locality is (unexpectedly) already active
> >>>> check_locality() and consequently __tpm_tis_request_locality() return "true".
> >>>
> >>> check_locality() returns true, but __tpm_tis_request_locality() returns
> >>> the requested locality. Currently, this is always 0, so the check for
> >>> !ret will always correctly indicate success and increment the
> >>> locality_count.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Will the TPM TIS CORE ever (have to) request another locality than 0? Maybe the best would
> >> be to hardcode TPM_ACCESS(0) and get rid of all the locality parameters that are
> >> passed from one function to another.
> >
> > Usually, or at least use cases I'm aware of, localities are per
> > component. E.g. Intel TXT has one and Linux has another.
> >
> > There's been some proposals in the past here for hypervisor specific
> > locality here at LKML they didn't lead to anything.
> >
> > If you are suggesting of removing "int l" parameter altogether, I
> > do support that idea.
> >
>
> Yes, removing the "l" parameter is what I meant. I can prepare a patch for
> the removal.

This change BTW does not need to be supported by any bug per se as
removing useless code is always welcome.

If we wanted ever use let's say separate locality for hypervisor,
we would want to design such feature from ground up. I don't think
this will happen tho since localities are sort of trend that died
with TPM 1.2... It had only authorization value and locality brought
some additional granularity to it.

As for this patch set I also don't think kernel should care about
localities beyond 2 or at least not ever try relinquish them.

I.e. it should at most relinquish localities 0-2. The only action
taken for 3-4 should really be perhaps rollbacking the driver init
and report to klog that these localities have been left open by
the platform.

BR, Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-21  0:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20240131170824.6183-1-dpsmith@apertussolutions.com>
2024-01-31 17:08 ` [PATCH 1/3] tpm: protect against locality counter underflow Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-01 22:21   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-02  3:08     ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-12 20:05       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-19 17:54         ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-20 18:42       ` Alexander Steffen
2024-02-20 19:04         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 20:54         ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-20 22:23           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 23:19             ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-21  0:40               ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2024-02-23  1:58             ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-23 12:58               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-25 11:23                 ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-26  9:39                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 22:26           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 22:31             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 23:26               ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-21  0:42                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-21 12:37               ` James Bottomley
2024-02-21 19:43                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-21 19:45                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-22  9:06                   ` James Bottomley
2024-02-22 23:49                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-23  1:57                   ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-23 20:40                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-23 20:42                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-23  1:57               ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-23 20:50                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 22:57             ` ross.philipson
2024-02-20 23:10               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 23:13                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-23  1:56           ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-23 20:44             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-24  2:34             ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-26  9:38               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-23  1:55         ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-26 12:43           ` Alexander Steffen
2024-02-24  2:06         ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-23  0:01   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-01-31 17:08 ` [PATCH 2/3] tpm: ensure tpm is in known state at startup Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-01 22:33   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-19 19:17     ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-19 20:17       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-01-31 17:08 ` [PATCH 3/3] tpm: make locality request return value consistent Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-01 22:49   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-19 20:29     ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-19 20:45       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 18:57       ` Alexander Steffen

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