From: "Jarkko Sakkinen" <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: "Jarkko Sakkinen" <jarkko@kernel.org>,
"Daniel P. Smith" <dpsmith@apertussolutions.com>,
"James Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
"Lino Sanfilippo" <l.sanfilippo@kunbus.com>,
"Alexander Steffen" <Alexander.Steffen@infineon.com>,
"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
"Sasha Levin" <sashal@kernel.org>,
<linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "Ross Philipson" <ross.philipson@oracle.com>,
"Kanth Ghatraju" <kanth.ghatraju@oracle.com>,
"Peter Huewe" <peterhuewe@gmx.dekkjkj>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] tpm: protect against locality counter underflow
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 22:42:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CZCR0STNHQZ7.WQ6RUYVPYKZI@suppilovahvero> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CZCQZ5FTCCB5.GIN1NU7G5S0@suppilovahvero>
On Fri Feb 23, 2024 at 10:40 PM EET, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Fri Feb 23, 2024 at 3:57 AM EET, Daniel P. Smith wrote:
> > On 2/21/24 14:43, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > On Wed Feb 21, 2024 at 12:37 PM UTC, James Bottomley wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 2024-02-20 at 22:31 +0000, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> 2. Because localities are not too useful these days given TPM2's
> > >>> policy mechanism
> > >>
> > >> Localitites are useful to the TPM2 policy mechanism. When we get key
> > >> policy in the kernel it will give us a way to create TPM wrapped keys
> > >> that can only be unwrapped in the kernel if we run the kernel in a
> > >> different locality from userspace (I already have demo patches doing
> > >> this).
> > >
> > > Let's keep this discussion in scope, please.
> > >
> > > Removing useless code using registers that you might have some actually
> > > useful use is not wrong thing to do. It is better to look at things from
> > > clean slate when the time comes.
> > >
> > >>> I cannot recall out of top of my head can
> > >>> you have two localities open at same time.
> > >>
> > >> I think there's a misunderstanding about what localities are: they're
> > >> effectively an additional platform supplied tag to a command. Each
> > >> command can therefore have one and only one locality. The TPM doesn't
> > >
> > > Actually this was not unclear at all. I even read the chapters from
> > > Ariel Segall's yesterday as a refresher.
> > >
> > > I was merely asking that if TPM_ACCESS_X is not properly cleared and you
> > > se TPM_ACCESS_Y where Y < X how does the hardware react as the bug
> > > report is pretty open ended and not very clear of the steps leading to
> > > unwanted results.
> > >
> > > With a quick check from [1] could not spot the conflict reaction but
> > > it is probably there.
> >
> > The expected behavior is explained in the Informative Comment of section
> > 6.5.2.4 of the Client PTP spec[1]:
> >
> > "The purpose of this register is to allow the processes operating at the
> > various localities to share the TPM. The basic notion is that any
> > locality can request access to the TPM by setting the
> > TPM_ACCESS_x.requestUse field using its assigned TPM_ACCESS_x register
> > address. If there is no currently set locality, the TPM sets current
> > locality to the requesting one and allows operations only from that
> > locality. If the TPM is currently at another locality, the TPM keeps the
> > request pending until the currently executing locality frees the TPM.
>
> Right.
>
> I'd think it would make sense to document the basic dance like this as
> part of kdoc for request_locality:
>
> * Setting TPM_ACCESS_x.requestUse:
> * 1. No locality reserved => set locality.
> * 2. Locality reserved => set pending.
>
> I.e. easy reminder with enough granularity.
Also for any non-TPM kernel developer this should be enough to get the
basic gist of the mechanism without spending too much time reading.
BR, Jarkko
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[not found] <20240131170824.6183-1-dpsmith@apertussolutions.com>
2024-01-31 17:08 ` [PATCH 1/3] tpm: protect against locality counter underflow Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-01 22:21 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-02 3:08 ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-12 20:05 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-19 17:54 ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-20 18:42 ` Alexander Steffen
2024-02-20 19:04 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 20:54 ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-20 22:23 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 23:19 ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-21 0:40 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-23 1:58 ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-23 12:58 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-25 11:23 ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-26 9:39 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 22:26 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 22:31 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 23:26 ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-21 0:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-21 12:37 ` James Bottomley
2024-02-21 19:43 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-21 19:45 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-22 9:06 ` James Bottomley
2024-02-22 23:49 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-23 1:57 ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-23 20:40 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-23 20:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2024-02-23 1:57 ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-23 20:50 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 22:57 ` ross.philipson
2024-02-20 23:10 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 23:13 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-23 1:56 ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-23 20:44 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-24 2:34 ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-26 9:38 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-23 1:55 ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-26 12:43 ` Alexander Steffen
2024-02-24 2:06 ` Lino Sanfilippo
2024-02-23 0:01 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-01-31 17:08 ` [PATCH 2/3] tpm: ensure tpm is in known state at startup Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-01 22:33 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-19 19:17 ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-19 20:17 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-01-31 17:08 ` [PATCH 3/3] tpm: make locality request return value consistent Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-01 22:49 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-19 20:29 ` Daniel P. Smith
2024-02-19 20:45 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-02-20 18:57 ` Alexander Steffen
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