From: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
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Giovanni Gherdovich <ggherdovich@suse.cz>,
Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>,
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Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 18/20] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2024 11:06:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jznh3o10.fsf@somnus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZcFFSgjcDcuz7Swv@pavilion.home>
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org> writes:
> Le Mon, Feb 05, 2024 at 02:29:34PM +0100, Anna-Maria Behnsen a écrit :
>> Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de> writes:
>>
>> > Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org> writes:
>> >
>> >> Le Thu, Feb 01, 2024 at 05:15:37PM +0100, Anna-Maria Behnsen a écrit :
>> >>> Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org> writes:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Le Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 03:37:41PM +0100, Anna-Maria Behnsen a écrit :
>> >>> > Heh, I was about to say that it's impossible that timer_base_is_idle()
>> >>> > at this stage but actually if we run in nohz_full...
>> >>> >
>> >>> > It happens so that nohz_full is deactivated until rcutree_online_cpu()
>> >>> > which calls tick_dep_clear() but it's a pure coincidence that might
>> >>> > disappear one day. So yes, let's keep it that way.
>> >>>
>> >>> I instrumented the code (with NOHZ FULL and NOHZ_IDLE) to make sure the
>> >>> timer migration hierarchy state 'idle' is in sync with the timer base
>> >>> 'idle'. And this was one part where it was possible that it runs out of
>> >>> sync as I remember correctly. But if I understood you correctly, this
>> >>> shouldn't happen at the moment?
>> >>
>> >> Well, it's not supposed to :-)
>> >
>> > Hmm, let me double check this and run the tests on the instrumented
>> > version...
>>
>> I added a prinkt() to verify what I think I remember. I was able to see
>> the prints. So it seems, that the coincidence that nohz_full is
>> deactivated until rcutree_online_cpu() already disappeared.
>
> Nice, then I guess it can become a WARN_ON.
Either I misunderstood something, or wasn't able to explain what I
wanted to say.
I understood, that nohz full is disabled (by coincidence) until
rcutree_online_cpu() which comes after the timer migration CPU hotplug
AP. This means, that the check whether timer base is idle or not,
shouldn't be required in tmigr_cpu_online() to keep cpu idle or mark it
active in the hierarchy. But we could keep it in case coincidence
disappears. No?
So I added a printk() when timer base is idle in tmigr_cpu_online(). And
I was able to see the prints. This means, nohz full is _not_ disabled
when executing tmigr_cpu_online(), or am I wrong?
So when I replace the printk() with a WARN_ON() it will definitely
trigger. So I'm not sure if this is what you want to have :)
Thanks,
Anna-Maria
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Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-15 14:37 [PATCH v10 00/20] timers: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 01/20] timers: Restructure get_next_timer_interrupt() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 15:01 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 02/20] timers: Split out get next timer interrupt Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 15:06 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 03/20] timers: Move marking timer bases idle into tick_nohz_stop_tick() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 16:02 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-22 11:45 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-22 21:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-19 8:52 ` [PATCH v10a] " Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-19 22:37 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 10:48 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 11:41 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 12:02 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 12:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 14:00 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 15:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 15:23 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 15:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 04/20] timers: Optimization for timer_base_try_to_set_idle() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 16:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-22 11:48 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-22 22:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 05/20] timers: Introduce add_timer() variants which modify timer flags Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 17:01 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-22 11:50 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 06/20] workqueue: Use global variant for add_timer() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 07/20] timers: add_timer_on(): Make sure TIMER_PINNED flag is set Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 08/20] timers: Ease code in run_local_timers() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 09/20] timers: Split next timer interrupt logic Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-23 14:28 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 10/20] timers: Keep the pinned timers separate from the others Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 11/20] timers: Retrieve next expiry of pinned/non-pinned timers separately Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 12/20] timers: Split out "get next timer interrupt" functionality Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 13/20] timers: Add get next timer interrupt functionality for remote CPUs Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-19 16:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-19 16:57 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 14/20] timers: Restructure internal locking Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 13:56 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 15/20] timers: Check if timers base is handled already Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 14:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 16/20] tick/sched: Split out jiffies update helper function Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 14:42 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 17/20] timers: Introduce function to check timer base is_idle flag Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 14:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 18/20] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-25 14:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-28 15:58 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-30 15:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 16:45 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-26 12:53 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-27 22:54 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-29 10:50 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-29 22:21 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 13:32 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-29 13:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-01-29 1:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 17:56 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-30 21:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-31 11:19 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-30 15:37 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 14:59 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 15:05 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 16:15 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 17:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 20:52 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-05 13:29 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-05 20:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 10:06 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen [this message]
2024-02-06 10:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 16:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-05 15:59 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-05 20:28 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-04 22:02 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 11:03 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 11:11 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-04 22:32 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 11:36 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 13:21 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 14:13 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 14:21 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 19/20] timer_migration: Add tracepoints Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 16:47 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 20/20] timers: Always queue timers on the local CPU Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 17:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 20:58 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-02 11:57 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 00/20] timers: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Christian Loehle
2024-02-01 15:03 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
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