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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Sebastian Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Giovanni Gherdovich <ggherdovich@suse.cz>,
	Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>,
	"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@intel.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 18/20] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 14:21:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZcIyWJxeLy4GaTbM@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eddp3ju0.fsf@somnus>

Le Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 12:36:55PM +0100, Anna-Maria Behnsen a écrit :
> Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org> writes:
> 
> > Le Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 03:37:41PM +0100, Anna-Maria Behnsen a écrit :
> >> +/*
> >> + * Returns true, if there is nothing to be propagated to the next level
> >> + *
> >> + * @data->firstexp is set to expiry of first gobal event of the (top level of
> >> + * the) hierarchy, but only when hierarchy is completely idle.
> >> + *
> >> + * This is the only place where the group event expiry value is set.
> >> + */
> >> +static
> >> +bool tmigr_update_events(struct tmigr_group *group, struct tmigr_group *child,
> >> +			 struct tmigr_walk *data, union tmigr_state childstate,
> >> +			 union tmigr_state groupstate)
> >> +{
> >> +	struct tmigr_event *evt, *first_childevt;
> >> +	bool walk_done, remote = data->remote;
> >> +	bool leftmost_change = false;
> >> +	u64 nextexp;
> >> +
> >> +	if (child) {
> >> +		raw_spin_lock(&child->lock);
> >> +		raw_spin_lock_nested(&group->lock, SINGLE_DEPTH_NESTING);
> >> +
> >> +		if (childstate.active) {
> >> +			walk_done = true;
> >> +			goto unlock;
> >> +		}
> >> +
> >> +		first_childevt = tmigr_next_groupevt(child);
> >> +		nextexp = child->next_expiry;
> >> +		evt = &child->groupevt;
> >> +	} else {
> >> +		nextexp = data->nextexp;
> >> +
> >> +		first_childevt = evt = data->evt;
> >> +
> >> +		/*
> >> +		 * Walking the hierarchy is required in any case when a
> >> +		 * remote expiry was done before. This ensures to not lose
> >> +		 * already queued events in non active groups (see section
> >> +		 * "Required event and timerqueue update after a remote
> >> +		 * expiry" in the documentation at the top).
> >> +		 *
> >> +		 * The two call sites which are executed without a remote expiry
> >> +		 * before, are not prevented from propagating changes through
> >> +		 * the hierarchy by the return:
> >> +		 *  - When entering this path by tmigr_new_timer(), @evt->ignore
> >> +		 *    is never set.
> >> +		 *  - tmigr_inactive_up() takes care of the propagation by
> >> +		 *    itself and ignores the return value. But an immediate
> >> +		 *    return is required because nothing has to be done in this
> >> +		 *    level as the event could be ignored.
> >> +		 */
> >> +		if (evt->ignore && !remote)
> >> +			return true;
> >> +
> >> +		raw_spin_lock(&group->lock);
> >> +	}
> >> +
> >> +	if (nextexp == KTIME_MAX) {
> >> +		evt->ignore = true;
> >> +
> >> +		/*
> >> +		 * When the next child event could be ignored (nextexp is
> >> +		 * KTIME_MAX) and there was no remote timer handling before or
> >> +		 * the group is already active, there is no need to walk the
> >> +		 * hierarchy even if there is a parent group.
> >> +		 *
> >> +		 * The other way round: even if the event could be ignored, but
> >> +		 * if a remote timer handling was executed before and the group
> >> +		 * is not active, walking the hierarchy is required to not miss
> >> +		 * an enqueued timer in the non active group. The enqueued timer
> >> +		 * of the group needs to be propagated to a higher level to
> >> +		 * ensure it is handled.
> >> +		 */
> >> +		if (!remote || groupstate.active) {
> >> +			walk_done = true;
> >> +			goto unlock;
> >
> > So if the current tmc going inactive was the migrator for the whole hierarchy
> > and it is reaching here the top-level, this assumes that if none of this tmc's
> > groups have a timer, then it can just return. But what if the top level has
> > timers from other children? Who is going to handle them then?
> >
> > Should this be "goto check_toplvl" instead?
> >
> 
> Simply replacing this goto will not work. Then we chould end up with a
> 'data->firstexp' set even if we do not want to have it (when remote is
> not set).

Hmm, but the (groupstate.migrator == TMIGR_NONE) condition should prevent that,
no?

> 
> There is another issue in here. When the event could be ignored and it
> is propagated because of e.g. remote timer handling, then the timerqueue
> dance is done nevertheless. It's not a big problem (as the ignore flag
> is set and event is removed of queue when revisting the timer queue),
> but its obviously more work than it is required to have.

Right. I guess it doesn't hurt to delete it from the timerqueue if present and
then update group->next_expiry accordingly. But it's certainly not useful
to requeue it :-)

Thanks.

> 
> Thanks
> 
> >> +		}
> >> +	} else {
> >> +		/*
> >> +		 * An update of @evt->cpu and @evt->ignore flag is required only
> >> +		 * when @child is set (the child is equal or higher than lvl0),
> >> +		 * but it doesn't matter if it is written once more to the per
> >> +		 * CPU event; make the update unconditional.
> >> +		 */
> >> +		evt->cpu = first_childevt->cpu;
> >> +		evt->ignore = false;
> >> +	}
> >> +
> >> +	walk_done = !group->parent;
> >> +
> >> +	/*
> >> +	 * If the child event is already queued in the group, remove it from the
> >> +	 * queue when the expiry time changed only.
> >> +	 */
> >> +	if (timerqueue_node_queued(&evt->nextevt)) {
> >> +		if (evt->nextevt.expires == nextexp)
> >> +			goto check_toplvl;
> >> +
> >> +		leftmost_change = timerqueue_getnext(&group->events) == &evt->nextevt;
> >> +		if (!timerqueue_del(&group->events, &evt->nextevt))
> >> +			WRITE_ONCE(group->next_expiry, KTIME_MAX);
> >> +	}
> >> +
> >> +	evt->nextevt.expires = nextexp;
> >> +
> >> +	if (timerqueue_add(&group->events, &evt->nextevt)) {
> >> +		leftmost_change = true;
> >> +		WRITE_ONCE(group->next_expiry, nextexp);
> >> +	}
> >> +
> >> +check_toplvl:
> >> +	if (walk_done && (groupstate.migrator == TMIGR_NONE)) {
> >> +		/*
> >> +		 * Nothing to do when first event didn't changed and update was
> >> +		 * done during remote timer handling.
> >> +		 */
> >> +		if (remote && !leftmost_change)
> >> +			goto unlock;
> >> +		/*
> >> +		 * The top level group is idle and it has to be ensured the
> >> +		 * global timers are handled in time. (This could be optimized
> >> +		 * by keeping track of the last global scheduled event and only
> >> +		 * arming it on the CPU if the new event is earlier. Not sure if
> >> +		 * its worth the complexity.)
> >> +		 */
> >> +		data->firstexp = tmigr_next_groupevt_expires(group);
> >> +	}
> >> +
> >> +unlock:
> >> +	raw_spin_unlock(&group->lock);
> >> +
> >> +	if (child)
> >> +		raw_spin_unlock(&child->lock);
> >> +
> >> +	return walk_done;
> >> +}

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-06 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-15 14:37 [PATCH v10 00/20] timers: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 01/20] timers: Restructure get_next_timer_interrupt() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 15:01   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 02/20] timers: Split out get next timer interrupt Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 15:06   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 03/20] timers: Move marking timer bases idle into tick_nohz_stop_tick() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 16:02   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-22 11:45     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-22 21:49       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-19  8:52   ` [PATCH v10a] " Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-19 22:37     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 10:48       ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 11:41         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 12:02           ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 12:34             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 14:00               ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 15:10                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 15:23                   ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 15:25                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 04/20] timers: Optimization for timer_base_try_to_set_idle() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 16:45   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-22 11:48     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-22 22:22   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 05/20] timers: Introduce add_timer() variants which modify timer flags Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 17:01   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-22 11:50     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 06/20] workqueue: Use global variant for add_timer() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 07/20] timers: add_timer_on(): Make sure TIMER_PINNED flag is set Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 08/20] timers: Ease code in run_local_timers() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 09/20] timers: Split next timer interrupt logic Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-23 14:28   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 10/20] timers: Keep the pinned timers separate from the others Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 11/20] timers: Retrieve next expiry of pinned/non-pinned timers separately Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 12/20] timers: Split out "get next timer interrupt" functionality Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 13/20] timers: Add get next timer interrupt functionality for remote CPUs Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-19 16:04   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-19 16:57     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 14/20] timers: Restructure internal locking Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 13:56   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 15/20] timers: Check if timers base is handled already Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 14:22   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 16/20] tick/sched: Split out jiffies update helper function Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 14:42   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 17/20] timers: Introduce function to check timer base is_idle flag Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 14:52   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 18/20] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-25 14:30   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-28 15:58     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-30 15:29       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 16:45         ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-26 12:53   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-27 22:54   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-29 10:50     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-29 22:21       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 13:32         ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-29 13:50     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-01-29  1:04   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 17:56     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-30 21:13       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-31 11:19         ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-30 15:37   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 14:59     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 15:05   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 16:15     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 17:43       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 20:52         ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-05 13:29           ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-05 20:30             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 10:06               ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 10:29                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 16:33   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-05 15:59     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-05 20:28       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-04 22:02   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 11:03     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 11:11       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-04 22:32   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 11:36     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 13:21       ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2024-02-06 14:13         ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 14:21           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 19/20] timer_migration: Add tracepoints Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 16:47   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 20/20] timers: Always queue timers on the local CPU Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 17:36   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 20:58     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-02 11:57       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 00/20] timers: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Christian Loehle
2024-02-01 15:03   ` Anna-Maria Behnsen

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