linux-kernel.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Sebastian Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Giovanni Gherdovich <ggherdovich@suse.cz>,
	Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>,
	"Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@intel.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 18/20] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 18:43:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZbvYJysR7gnaQiNg@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bk90i2ja.fsf@somnus>

Le Thu, Feb 01, 2024 at 05:15:37PM +0100, Anna-Maria Behnsen a écrit :
> Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org> writes:
> 
> > Le Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 03:37:41PM +0100, Anna-Maria Behnsen a écrit :
> >> +static void tmigr_connect_child_parent(struct tmigr_group *child,
> >> +				       struct tmigr_group *parent)
> >> +{
> >> +	union tmigr_state childstate;
> >> +
> >> +	raw_spin_lock_irq(&child->lock);
> >> +	raw_spin_lock_nested(&parent->lock, SINGLE_DEPTH_NESTING);
> >> +
> >> +	child->parent = parent;
> >> +	child->childmask = BIT(parent->num_children++);
> >> +
> >> +	raw_spin_unlock(&parent->lock);
> >> +	raw_spin_unlock_irq(&child->lock);
> >> +
> >> +	/*
> >> +	 * To prevent inconsistent states, active children need to be active in
> >> +	 * the new parent as well. Inactive children are already marked inactive
> >> +	 * in the parent group.
> >> +	 */
> >> +	childstate.state = atomic_read(&child->migr_state);
> >> +	if (childstate.migrator != TMIGR_NONE) {
> >
> > Is it possible here to connect a running online child (not one that we just
> > created) to a new parent?
> 
> connect_child_parent() is only executed for the just created ones. So,
> yes in theory this would be possible, but it doesn't happen as
> tmigr_setup_groups() takes care to make it right (hopefully :)). When a
> LVL0 group has some space left, only the connection between tmc and the
> LVL0 group is done in tmigr_setup_groups(). If there is no space left in
> LVL0 group, then a new group is created and depending on the levels
> which has to be created only executed for the new ones.
> 
> > If not, is it possible that a newly created child is
> > not TMIGR_NONE?
> 
> Yes. See tmigr_cpu_online(). When new groups have to be created starting
> from LVL0, then they are not active - so TMIGR_NONE is set. Activating
> the new online CPU is done afterwards.
> 
> But if it is required to add also a new level at the top, then it is
> mandatory to propagate the active state of the already existing child to
> the new parent. The connect_child_parent() is then also executed for the
> formerly top level group (child) to the newly created group (parent).

Ah and this is why we have the "if (childstate.migrator != TMIGR_NONE)"
branch, right?

> > Heh, I was about to say that it's impossible that timer_base_is_idle()
> > at this stage but actually if we run in nohz_full...
> >
> > It happens so that nohz_full is deactivated until rcutree_online_cpu()
> > which calls tick_dep_clear() but it's a pure coincidence that might
> > disappear one day. So yes, let's keep it that way.
> 
> I instrumented the code (with NOHZ FULL and NOHZ_IDLE) to make sure the
> timer migration hierarchy state 'idle' is in sync with the timer base
> 'idle'. And this was one part where it was possible that it runs out of
> sync as I remember correctly. But if I understood you correctly, this
> shouldn't happen at the moment?

Well, it's not supposed to :-)

Thanks.

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	Anna-Maria
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-01 17:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-15 14:37 [PATCH v10 00/20] timers: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 01/20] timers: Restructure get_next_timer_interrupt() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 15:01   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 02/20] timers: Split out get next timer interrupt Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 15:06   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 03/20] timers: Move marking timer bases idle into tick_nohz_stop_tick() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 16:02   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-22 11:45     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-22 21:49       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-19  8:52   ` [PATCH v10a] " Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-19 22:37     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 10:48       ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 11:41         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 12:02           ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 12:34             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 14:00               ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 15:10                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-20 15:23                   ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-20 15:25                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 04/20] timers: Optimization for timer_base_try_to_set_idle() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 16:45   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-22 11:48     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-22 22:22   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 05/20] timers: Introduce add_timer() variants which modify timer flags Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-17 17:01   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-22 11:50     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 06/20] workqueue: Use global variant for add_timer() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 07/20] timers: add_timer_on(): Make sure TIMER_PINNED flag is set Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 08/20] timers: Ease code in run_local_timers() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 09/20] timers: Split next timer interrupt logic Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-23 14:28   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 10/20] timers: Keep the pinned timers separate from the others Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 11/20] timers: Retrieve next expiry of pinned/non-pinned timers separately Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 12/20] timers: Split out "get next timer interrupt" functionality Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 13/20] timers: Add get next timer interrupt functionality for remote CPUs Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-19 16:04   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-19 16:57     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 14/20] timers: Restructure internal locking Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 13:56   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 15/20] timers: Check if timers base is handled already Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 14:22   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 16/20] tick/sched: Split out jiffies update helper function Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 14:42   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 17/20] timers: Introduce function to check timer base is_idle flag Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-24 14:52   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 18/20] timers: Implement the hierarchical pull model Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-25 14:30   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-28 15:58     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-30 15:29       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 16:45         ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-26 12:53   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-27 22:54   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-29 10:50     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-29 22:21       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 13:32         ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-29 13:50     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-01-29  1:04   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 17:56     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-30 21:13       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-31 11:19         ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-01-30 15:37   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 14:59     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 15:05   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 16:15     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 17:43       ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2024-02-01 20:52         ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-05 13:29           ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-05 20:30             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 10:06               ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 10:29                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 16:33   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-05 15:59     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-05 20:28       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-04 22:02   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 11:03     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 11:11       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-04 22:32   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 11:36     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 13:21       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-06 14:13         ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-06 14:21           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 19/20] timer_migration: Add tracepoints Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 16:47   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-15 14:37 ` [PATCH v10 20/20] timers: Always queue timers on the local CPU Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-01 17:36   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-02-01 20:58     ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-02-02 11:57       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-01-30 22:07 ` [PATCH v10 00/20] timers: Move from a push remote at enqueue to a pull at expiry model Christian Loehle
2024-02-01 15:03   ` Anna-Maria Behnsen

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=ZbvYJysR7gnaQiNg@localhost.localdomain \
    --to=frederic@kernel.org \
    --cc=anna-maria@linutronix.de \
    --cc=arjan@infradead.org \
    --cc=bigeasy@linutronix.de \
    --cc=edumazet@google.com \
    --cc=gautham.shenoy@amd.com \
    --cc=ggherdovich@suse.cz \
    --cc=jstultz@google.com \
    --cc=kprateek.nayak@amd.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=lukasz.luba@arm.com \
    --cc=paulmck@kernel.org \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com \
    --cc=riel@surriel.com \
    --cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
    --cc=srinivas.pandruvada@intel.com \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).