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From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>
Cc: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: objtool clac/stac handling change..
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 23:34:31 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lfk26nx4.fsf@mpe.ellerman.id.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wj-CYhKZR8ZKQgi=VTx=o7n6dtwPXikvgkJ3SdiqRPd8A@mail.gmail.com>

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 12:59 PM Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 12:04:36PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> >
>> > That's actually for the access granting. Shutting the access down ends
>> > up always doing the same thing anyway..
>>
>> #define user_read_access_end            prevent_current_read_from_user
>> #define user_write_access_end           prevent_current_write_to_user
>> static inline void prevent_current_read_from_user(void)
>> {
>>         prevent_user_access(NULL, NULL, ~0UL, KUAP_CURRENT_READ);
>> }
>>
>> static inline void prevent_current_write_to_user(void)
>> {
>>         prevent_user_access(NULL, NULL, ~0UL, KUAP_CURRENT_WRITE);
>> }
>>
>> and prevent_user_access() has instances that do care about the direction...
>
> Go and look closer.
>
> There are three cases:
>
>  (a) the 32-bit book3s case. It looks like it cares, but when you look
> closer, it ends up not caring about the read side, and saving the
> "which address to I allow user writes to" in current->thread.kuap
>
>  (b) the nohash 32-bit case - doesn't care
>
>  (c) the 64-bit books case - doesn't care
>
> So yes, in the (a) case it does make a difference between reads and
> writes, but at least as far as I can tell, it ignores the read case,
> and has code to avoid the unnecessary "disable user writes" case when
> there was only a read enable done.

Yeah that's my understanding too.

Christophe is the expert on that code so I'll defer to him if I'm wrong.

> Now, it's possible that I'm wrong, but the upshot of that is that even
> on powerpc, I think that if we just made the rule be that "taking a
> user exception should automatically do the 'user_access_end()' for us"
> is trivial.

I think we can do something to make it work.

We don't have an equivalent of x86's ex_handler_uaccess(), so it's not
quite as easy as whacking a user_access_end() in there.

Probably the simplest option for us is to just handle it in our
unsafe_op_wrap(). I'll try and come up with something tomorrow.

cheers

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-02 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-01 18:22 objtool clac/stac handling change Linus Torvalds
2020-07-01 18:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-01 19:35   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-01 20:36     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-01 20:51       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-07-01 21:02         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02  0:00           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-07-02  8:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-01 20:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02  0:47         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-02  2:30           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02  2:35             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02  3:08             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-01 18:41 ` Al Viro
2020-07-01 19:04   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-01 19:59     ` Al Viro
2020-07-01 20:25       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 13:34         ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2020-07-02 14:01           ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 14:04             ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 15:13           ` Christophe Leroy
2020-07-02 20:13             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03  3:59               ` Michael Ellerman
2020-07-03  3:17             ` Michael Ellerman
2020-07-03  5:27               ` Christophe Leroy
2020-07-02 19:52           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 20:17             ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 20:32               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 20:59                 ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 21:55                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03  1:33                     ` Al Viro
2020-07-03  3:32                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03 21:02                       ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 21:10                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03 21:41                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-03 22:25                             ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 21:59                           ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 22:04                             ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 22:12                           ` Al Viro
2020-07-04  0:49                         ` Al Viro
2020-07-04  1:54                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-04  2:30                             ` Al Viro
2020-07-04  3:06                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-04  2:11                           ` Al Viro
2020-07-07 12:35                             ` David Laight
2020-07-10 22:37                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-13  9:32                                 ` David Laight

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