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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: objtool clac/stac handling change..
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 11:29:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrXLcyuVT2JCrb0d-5Oq8aRLrERUdhRfGLxVZyYYo3BoBQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjc-ktbOr7ZHMY8gfAmHxUK+aMdDsQjeh+BvmQwnQfN_g@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 11:22 AM Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> Josh / PeterZ,
>  it turns out that clang seems to now have fixed the last known
> nagging details with "asm goto" with outputs, so I'm looking at
> actually trying to merge the support for that in the kernel.
>
> The main annoyance isn't actually using "asm goto" at all, the main
> annoyance is just that it will all have to be conditional on whether
> the compiler supports it or not. We have the config option for that
> already, but it will just end up with two copies of the code depending
> on that option.
>
> It's not a huge deal: the recent cleanups wrt the x86 uaccess code
> have made the code _much_ more straightforward and legible, and I'm
> not so worried about it all.
>
> Except that when I looked at this, I realized that I really had picked
> the wrong model for how exceptions are handled wrt stac/clac. In
> particular user access exceptions return with stac set, so we end up
> having a code pattern where the error case will also have to do the
> user_access_end() to finish the STAC region.
>
> Adding a user_access_end() to the user exception fault handler is trivial.
>
> But the thing I'm asking you for is how nasty it would be to change
> objtool to have those rules?
>
> IOW, right now we have
>
>     if (!user_acces_begin(...))
>            goto efault;
>     unsafe_get/put_user(ptr, val, label);
>     user_access_end();
>     return 0;
>
> label:
>      user_access_end();
> efaulr:
>      return -EFAULT;
>
> and I'd like to make the "label" case just go to "efault", with
> objtool knowing that the exception handling already did the
> user_access_end().

Do we really want the exception handling to do the CLAC?  Having
unsafe_get_user() do CLAC seems surprising to me, and it will break
use cases like:

if (!user_access_begin(...)
  goto out;

ret = unsafe_get_user(...);

user_access_end();

check ret;

I have no problem with a special ex_handler_uaccess_clac, but I don't
think it should be the default.

--Andy

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-01 18:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-01 18:22 objtool clac/stac handling change Linus Torvalds
2020-07-01 18:29 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2020-07-01 19:35   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-01 20:36     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-01 20:51       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-07-01 21:02         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02  0:00           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-07-02  8:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-01 20:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02  0:47         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-02  2:30           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02  2:35             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02  3:08             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-01 18:41 ` Al Viro
2020-07-01 19:04   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-01 19:59     ` Al Viro
2020-07-01 20:25       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 13:34         ` Michael Ellerman
2020-07-02 14:01           ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 14:04             ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 15:13           ` Christophe Leroy
2020-07-02 20:13             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03  3:59               ` Michael Ellerman
2020-07-03  3:17             ` Michael Ellerman
2020-07-03  5:27               ` Christophe Leroy
2020-07-02 19:52           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 20:17             ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 20:32               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-02 20:59                 ` Al Viro
2020-07-02 21:55                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03  1:33                     ` Al Viro
2020-07-03  3:32                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03 21:02                       ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 21:10                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-03 21:41                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-03 22:25                             ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 21:59                           ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 22:04                             ` Al Viro
2020-07-03 22:12                           ` Al Viro
2020-07-04  0:49                         ` Al Viro
2020-07-04  1:54                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-04  2:30                             ` Al Viro
2020-07-04  3:06                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-04  2:11                           ` Al Viro
2020-07-07 12:35                             ` David Laight
2020-07-10 22:37                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-13  9:32                                 ` David Laight

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