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From: Roman Penyaev <rpenyaev@suse.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: azat@libevent.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 06/13] epoll: introduce helpers for adding/removing events to uring
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2019 12:02:22 +0200
Message-ID: <904d7aea51552c9be9afb3b19bfac66b@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190603090906.GE3436@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 2019-06-03 11:09, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 08:58:19PM +0200, Roman Penyaev wrote:
>> On 2019-05-31 18:51, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
>> > But like you show, it can be done. It also makes the thing wait-free, as
>> > opposed to merely lockless.
>> 
>> You think it's better?  I did not like this variant from the very
>> beginning because of the unnecessary complexity.  But maybe you're
>> right.  No busy loops on user side makes it wait-free.  And also
>> I can avoid c11 in kernel using cmpxchg along with atomic_t.
> 
> Imagine the (v)CPU going for an extended nap right between publishing 
> the
> new tail and writing the !0 entry. Then your userspace is stuck burning
> cycles without getting anything useful done.

Yes, that is absolutely not nice.  That also worries me.  I wanted
to minimize number of atomic ops on hot path, and of course in that
respect this busy-loop is more attractive.

I will polish and switch back to the wait-free variant and resend the
whole patchset.  Could you please take a look?  Will add you to CC.

--
Roman

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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-16  8:57 [PATCH v3 00/13] epoll: support pollable epoll from userspace Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:57 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] epoll: move private helpers from a header to the source Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:57 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] epoll: introduce user structures for polling from userspace Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] epoll: allocate user header and user events ring " Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] epoll: some sanity flags checks for epoll syscalls " Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] epoll: offload polling to a work in case of epfd polled " Roman Penyaev
2019-05-21  7:51   ` Eric Wong
2019-05-22 12:54     ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] epoll: introduce helpers for adding/removing events to uring Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31  9:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 11:24     ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 13:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31  9:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 11:15     ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 12:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 14:28         ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 16:53           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 12:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 14:21         ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 16:51           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 18:58             ` Roman Penyaev
2019-06-03  9:09               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-03 10:02                 ` Roman Penyaev [this message]
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] epoll: call ep_add_event_to_uring() from ep_poll_callback() Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31  9:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 11:22     ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 13:05       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 15:05         ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] epoll: support polling from userspace for ep_insert() Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] epoll: support polling from userspace for ep_remove() Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] epoll: support polling from userspace for ep_modify() Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] epoll: support polling from userspace for ep_poll() Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] epoll: support mapping for epfd when polled from userspace Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] epoll: implement epoll_create2() syscall Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16 10:03   ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-05-16 10:20     ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16 10:57       ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-05-22  2:33       ` Andrew Morton
2019-05-22  9:11         ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-22 11:14         ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-05-22 18:36           ` Andrew Morton
2019-05-31  9:55 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] epoll: support pollable epoll from userspace Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 14:48 ` Jens Axboe
2019-05-31 16:02   ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 16:54     ` Jens Axboe
2019-05-31 19:45       ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 21:09         ` Jens Axboe
2019-06-05  6:17           ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 16:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 18:50   ` Roman Penyaev

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