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From: Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Jiri Pirko <jiri@mellanox.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	cjia <cjia@nvidia.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 0/2] Simplify mtty driver and mdev core
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 06:23:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM0PR05MB4866437FAA63C447CACCD7E5D1AA0@AM0PR05MB4866.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190820232622.164962d3@x1.home>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 10:56 AM
> To: Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>
> Cc: Jiri Pirko <jiri@mellanox.com>; David S . Miller <davem@davemloft.net>;
> Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>; Cornelia Huck
> <cohuck@redhat.com>; kvm@vger.kernel.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> cjia <cjia@nvidia.com>; netdev@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] Simplify mtty driver and mdev core
> 
> > > > > Just an example of the alias, not proposing how it's set.  In
> > > > > fact, proposing that the user does not set it, mdev-core
> > > > > provides one
> > > automatically.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Since there seems to be some prefix overhead, as I ask about
> > > > > > > above in how many characters we actually have to work with
> > > > > > > in IFNAMESZ, maybe we start with 8 characters (matching your
> > > > > > > "index" namespace) and expand as necessary for disambiguation.
> > > > > > > If we can eliminate overhead in IFNAMESZ, let's start with 12.
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > If user is going to choose the alias, why does it have to be limited to
> sha1?
> > > > > > Or you just told it as an example?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It can be an alpha-numeric string.
> > > > >
> > > > > No, I'm proposing a different solution where mdev-core creates
> > > > > an alias based on an abbreviated sha1.  The user does not provide the
> alias.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Instead of mdev imposing number of characters on the alias, it
> > > > > > should be best
> > > > > left to the user.
> > > > > > Because in future if netdev improves on the naming scheme,
> > > > > > mdev will be
> > > > > limiting it, which is not right.
> > > > > > So not restricting alias size seems right to me.
> > > > > > User configuring mdev for networking devices in a given kernel
> > > > > > knows what
> > > > > user is doing.
> > > > > > So user can choose alias name size as it finds suitable.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's not what I'm proposing, please read again.  Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > I understood your point. But mdev doesn't know how user is going
> > > > to use
> > > udev/systemd to name the netdev.
> > > > So even if mdev chose to pick 12 characters, it could result in collision.
> > > > Hence the proposal to provide the alias by the user, as user know
> > > > the best
> > > policy for its use case in the environment its using.
> > > > So 12 character sha1 method will still work by user.
> > >
> > > Haven't you already provided examples where certain drivers or
> > > subsystems have unique netdev prefixes?  If mdev provides a unique
> > > alias within the subsystem, couldn't we simply define a netdev
> > > prefix for the mdev subsystem and avoid all other collisions?  I'm
> > > not in favor of the user providing both a uuid and an
> > > alias/instance.  Thanks,
> > >
> > For a given prefix, say ens2f0, can two UUID->sha1 first 9 characters have
> collision?
> 
> I think it would be a mistake to waste so many chars on a prefix, but 9
> characters of sha1 likely wouldn't have a collision before we have 10s of
> thousands of devices.  Thanks,
> 
> Alex

Jiri, Dave,
Are you ok with it for devlink/netdev part?
Mdev core will create an alias from a UUID.

This will be supplied during devlink port attr set such as,

devlink_port_attrs_mdev_set(struct devlink_port *port, const char *mdev_alias);

This alias is used to generate representor netdev's phys_port_name.
This alias from the mdev device's sysfs will be used by the udev/systemd to generate predicable netdev's name.
Example: enm<mdev_alias_first_12_chars>
I took Ethernet mdev as an example.
New prefix 'm' stands for mediated device.
Remaining 12 characters are first 12 chars of the mdev alias.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-21  6:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-02  6:59 [PATCH 0/2] Simplify mtty driver and mdev core Parav Pandit
2019-08-02  6:59 ` [PATCH 1/2] vfio-mdev/mtty: Simplify interrupt generation Parav Pandit
2019-08-06  8:15   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-02  6:59 ` [PATCH 2/2] vfio/mdev: Removed unused and redundant API for mdev name Parav Pandit
2019-08-06  8:29   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-06 13:12     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-06 14:18 ` [PATCH v1 0/2] Simplify mtty driver and mdev core Parav Pandit
2019-08-06 14:18   ` [PATCH v1 1/2] vfio-mdev/mtty: Simplify interrupt generation Parav Pandit
2019-08-06 14:18   ` [PATCH v1 2/2] vfio/mdev: Removed unused and redundant API for mdev UUID Parav Pandit
2019-08-07  9:28     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-07 16:33       ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-08  8:29         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-08 14:01           ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-08 14:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Simplify mtty driver and mdev core Parav Pandit
2019-08-08 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] vfio-mdev/mtty: Simplify interrupt generation Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 16:39     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-23 20:48     ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-08 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] vfio/mdev: Removed unused and redundant API for mdev UUID Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 16:39     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-16 15:22     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-08 23:02   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Simplify mtty driver and mdev core Alex Williamson
2019-08-09  8:07     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-12 11:35     ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-08-13 14:40       ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 14:52         ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-13 16:28           ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 16:34             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-13 17:11             ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-14  5:54               ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-14  8:01                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-14 12:27                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-14 13:09                     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-14 13:45                       ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-14 14:57                         ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-14 16:21                           ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-20  8:58                             ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-20  9:58                               ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-08-20 11:25                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-20 16:31                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-21  2:42                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-20 17:19                               ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-20 17:55                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-21  3:57                                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-21  3:42                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-21  4:20                                   ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-21  4:40                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-21  4:57                                       ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-21  5:01                                         ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-21  5:26                                           ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-21  6:23                                             ` Parav Pandit [this message]
2019-08-22  9:29                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-22  9:42                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-22  9:58                                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-22 10:04                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-22 12:19                                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-22 13:33                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-23  8:12                                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-23  8:14                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-23 14:28                                                               ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-23 14:53                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-23 15:04                                                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-23 15:52                                                                   ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-23 16:14                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-23 17:16                                                                       ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-23 18:00                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-23 19:43                                                                           ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-24  3:56                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-24  4:45                                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-24  4:59                                                                               ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-24  5:22                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 16:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-13 17:40           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-08-14  5:30             ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 14:48     ` Parav Pandit

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