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From: Christophe de Dinechin <christophe.de.dinechin@gmail.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@mellanox.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"kvm\@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"cjia\@nvidia.com" <cjia@nvidia.com>,
	"netdev\@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] Simplify mtty driver and mdev core
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 11:58:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1o90kduow.fsf@dinechin.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM0PR05MB48668B6221E477A873688CDBD1AB0@AM0PR05MB4866.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>


Parav Pandit writes:

> + Dave.
>
> Hi Jiri, Dave, Alex, Kirti, Cornelia,
>
> Please provide your feedback on it, how shall we proceed?
>
> Hence, I would like to discuss below options.
>
> Option-1: mdev index
> Introduce an optional mdev index/handle as u32 during mdev create time.
> User passes mdev index/handle as input.
>
> phys_port_name=mIndex=m%u
> mdev_index will be available in sysfs as mdev attribute for udev to name the mdev's netdev.
>
> example mdev create command:
> UUID=$(uuidgen)
> echo $UUID index=10 > /sys/class/net/ens2f0/mdev_supported_types/mlx5_core_mdev/create
> example netdevs:
> repnetdev=ens2f0_m10	/*ens2f0 is parent PF's netdevice */
> mdev_netdev=enm10
>
> Pros:
> 1. mdevctl and any other existing tools are unaffected.
> 2. netdev stack, ovs and other switching platforms are unaffected.
> 3. achieves unique phys_port_name for representor netdev
> 4. achieves unique mdev eth netdev name for the mdev using udev/systemd extension.
> 5. Aligns well with mdev and netdev subsystem and similar to existing sriov bdf's.
>
> Option-2: shorter mdev name
> Extend mdev to have shorter mdev device name in addition to UUID.
> such as 'foo', 'bar'.
> Mdev will continue to have UUID.
> phys_port_name=mdev_name
>
> Pros:
> 1. All same as option-1, except mdevctl needs upgrade for newer usage.
> It is common practice to upgrade iproute2 package along with the kernel.
> Similar practice to be done with mdevctl.
> 2. Newer users of mdevctl who wants to work with non_UUID names, will use newer mdevctl/tools.
> Cons:
> 1. Dual naming scheme of mdev might affect some of the existing tools.
> It's unclear how/if it actually affects.
> mdevctl [2] is very recently developed and can be enhanced for dual naming scheme.
>
> Option-3: mdev uuid alias
> Instead of shorter mdev name or mdev index, have alpha-numeric name alias.
> Alias is an optional mdev sysfs attribute such as 'foo', 'bar'.
> example mdev create command:
> UUID=$(uuidgen)
> echo $UUID alias=foo > /sys/class/net/ens2f0/mdev_supported_types/mlx5_core_mdev/create
> example netdevs:
> examle netdevs:
> repnetdev = ens2f0_mfoo
> mdev_netdev=enmfoo
>
> Pros:
> 1. All same as option-1.
> 2. Doesn't affect existing mdev naming scheme.
> Cons:
> 1. Index scheme of option-1 is better which can number large number of mdevs with fewer characters, simplifying the management tool.

I believe that Alex pointed out another "Cons" to all three options,
which is that it forces user-space to resolve potential race conditions
when creating an index or short name or alias.

Also, what happens if `index=10` is not provided on the command-line?
Does that make the device unusable for your purpose?


--
Cheers,
Christophe de Dinechin (IRC c3d)

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-20  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-02  6:59 [PATCH 0/2] Simplify mtty driver and mdev core Parav Pandit
2019-08-02  6:59 ` [PATCH 1/2] vfio-mdev/mtty: Simplify interrupt generation Parav Pandit
2019-08-06  8:15   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-02  6:59 ` [PATCH 2/2] vfio/mdev: Removed unused and redundant API for mdev name Parav Pandit
2019-08-06  8:29   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-06 13:12     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-06 14:18 ` [PATCH v1 0/2] Simplify mtty driver and mdev core Parav Pandit
2019-08-06 14:18   ` [PATCH v1 1/2] vfio-mdev/mtty: Simplify interrupt generation Parav Pandit
2019-08-06 14:18   ` [PATCH v1 2/2] vfio/mdev: Removed unused and redundant API for mdev UUID Parav Pandit
2019-08-07  9:28     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-07 16:33       ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-08  8:29         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-08 14:01           ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-08 14:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Simplify mtty driver and mdev core Parav Pandit
2019-08-08 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] vfio-mdev/mtty: Simplify interrupt generation Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 16:39     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-23 20:48     ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-08 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] vfio/mdev: Removed unused and redundant API for mdev UUID Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 16:39     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-16 15:22     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-08 23:02   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Simplify mtty driver and mdev core Alex Williamson
2019-08-09  8:07     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-12 11:35     ` Kirti Wankhede
2019-08-13 14:40       ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 14:52         ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-13 16:28           ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 16:34             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-13 17:11             ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-14  5:54               ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-14  8:01                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-14 12:27                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-14 13:09                     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-14 13:45                       ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-14 14:57                         ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-14 16:21                           ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-20  8:58                             ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-20  9:58                               ` Christophe de Dinechin [this message]
2019-08-20 11:25                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-20 16:31                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-21  2:42                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-20 17:19                               ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-20 17:55                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-21  3:57                                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-21  3:42                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-21  4:20                                   ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-21  4:40                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-21  4:57                                       ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-21  5:01                                         ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-21  5:26                                           ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-21  6:23                                             ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-22  9:29                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-22  9:42                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-22  9:58                                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-22 10:04                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-22 12:19                                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-22 13:33                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-23  8:12                                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-23  8:14                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-23 14:28                                                               ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-23 14:53                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-23 15:04                                                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-23 15:52                                                                   ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-23 16:14                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-23 17:16                                                                       ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-23 18:00                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-23 19:43                                                                           ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-24  3:56                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-24  4:45                                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-24  4:59                                                                               ` Alex Williamson
2019-08-24  5:22                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 16:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-13 17:40           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-08-14  5:30             ` Parav Pandit
2019-08-13 14:48     ` Parav Pandit

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