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From: Varun Sethi <V.Sethi@nxp.com>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
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Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: [RFC PATCH HBK: 2/8] hw-bound-key: flag-is_hbk added to the tfm
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 11:07:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM9PR04MB821120DC26BFDD907A1229B0E84F9@AM9PR04MB8211.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YyBbU9sNC88EXFJs@gondor.apana.org.au>

Hi Herbert,
Please find comments inline.



Regards
Varun

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 3:59 PM
> To: Varun Sethi <V.Sethi@nxp.com>
> Cc: Pankaj Gupta <pankaj.gupta@nxp.com>; jarkko@kernel.org;
> a.fatoum@pengutronix.de; Jason@zx2c4.com; jejb@linux.ibm.com;
> zohar@linux.ibm.com; dhowells@redhat.com; sumit.garg@linaro.org;
> david@sigma-star.at; michael@walle.cc; john.ernberg@actia.se;
> jmorris@namei.org; serge@hallyn.com; davem@davemloft.net;
> j.luebbe@pengutronix.de; ebiggers@kernel.org; richard@nod.at;
> keyrings@vger.kernel.org; linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org; linux-
> integrity@vger.kernel.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linux-security-
> module@vger.kernel.org; Sahil Malhotra <sahil.malhotra@nxp.com>; Kshitiz
> Varshney <kshitiz.varshney@nxp.com>; Horia Geanta <horia.geanta@nxp.com>
> Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [RFC PATCH HBK: 2/8] hw-bound-key: flag-is_hbk added
> to the tfm
> 
> Caution: EXT Email
> 
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 10:01:13AM +0000, Varun Sethi wrote:
> >
> > [Varun] The proposed patchset makes things more scalable. With the
> hardware backed key flag, there's no need for the security co-processor driver
> to register separate set of algorithms. This makes things simpler and more
> scalable for the consumers (OpenSSL, AF_ALG, KTLS etc), as they can continue to
> use standard set of algorithms and leave the key specific complexity to the
> driver.
> 
> Users already need to specify which driver they are going to use in order to
> actually access the hardware keys instead of getting a software implementation
> of the same algorithm.
> 
> So I don't see what extra burdens are placed on them by the current regime.
[Varun] Problem with the current approach is that it's completely disconnected from the kernel keyrings. We are using the trusted key rings for storing the hardware backed keys. Now, for the hardware backed keys we can still continue to use the existing generic algorithms exposed by the crypto drivers. With our approach the driver can distinguish between a hardware backed key and a plain key, thus perform the relevant operation. 

As a part of our patchset we are also proposing modifications to the trusted keys, in order to store additional meta data associated with the key.  

> 
> Cheers,
> --
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-21 11:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-06  6:51 [RFC PATCH HBK: 0/8] HW BOUND KEY as TRUSTED KEY Pankaj Gupta
2022-09-06  6:51 ` [RFC PATCH HBK: 1/8] keys-trusted: new cmd line option added Pankaj Gupta
2022-09-06 13:01   ` Ben Boeckel
2022-09-07  7:22     ` [EXT] " Pankaj Gupta
2022-09-06  6:51 ` [RFC PATCH HBK: 2/8] hw-bound-key: flag-is_hbk added to the tfm Pankaj Gupta
2022-09-06  6:43   ` Herbert Xu
2022-09-07  7:22     ` [EXT] " Pankaj Gupta
2022-09-07  7:26       ` Herbert Xu
2022-09-07  9:58         ` Pankaj Gupta
2022-09-07 10:10           ` Herbert Xu
2022-09-12 17:19             ` Varun Sethi
2022-09-13  2:05               ` Herbert Xu
2022-09-13 10:01                 ` Varun Sethi
2022-09-13 10:28                   ` Herbert Xu
2022-09-21 11:07                     ` Varun Sethi [this message]
2022-09-06  6:51 ` [RFC PATCH HBK: 3/8] sk_cipher: checking for hw bound operation Pankaj Gupta
2022-09-06  6:51 ` [RFC PATCH HBK: 4/8] keys-trusted: re-factored caam based trusted key Pankaj Gupta
2022-09-06  6:51 ` [RFC PATCH HBK: 5/8] caam blob-gen: moving blob_priv to caam_drv_private Pankaj Gupta
2022-09-06  6:51 ` [RFC PATCH HBK: 6/8] KEYS: trusted: caam based black key Pankaj Gupta
2022-09-06 13:03   ` Ben Boeckel
2022-09-07  7:22     ` [EXT] " Pankaj Gupta
2022-09-06  6:51 ` [RFC PATCH HBK: 7/8] caam alg: symmetric key ciphers are updated Pankaj Gupta
2022-09-06  6:51 ` [RFC PATCH HBK: 8/8] dm-crypt: consumer-app setting the flag-is_hbk Pankaj Gupta
2022-09-06  7:12 ` [RFC PATCH HBK: 0/8] HW BOUND KEY as TRUSTED KEY Michael Walle
2022-09-07  7:22   ` [EXT] " Pankaj Gupta
2022-09-07  7:29     ` Michael Walle
2022-09-07  7:46       ` [EXT] " David Gstir
2022-09-07  8:11         ` Michael Walle
2022-09-07  9:57           ` Pankaj Gupta
2022-09-06  8:58 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-09-07  7:22   ` [EXT] " Pankaj Gupta
2022-09-07  8:10     ` Jan Lübbe
2022-09-07  9:57       ` Pankaj Gupta

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