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From: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/userfaultfd: fix memory corruption due to writeprotect
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 14:55:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B8095F3C-81E3-4AF9-A6A5-F597D51264BD@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201221223041.GL6640@xz-x1>

> On Dec 21, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 01:49:55PM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote:
>> BTW: In general, I think that you are right, and that changing of PTEs
>> should not require taking mmap_lock for write. However, I am not sure
>> cow_user_page() is not the only one that poses a problem and whether a more
>> systematic solution is needed. If cow_user_pages() is the only problem, do
>> you think it is possible to do the copying while holding the PTL? It works
>> for normal-pages, but I am not sure whether special-pages pose special
>> problems.
>> 
>> Anyhow, this is an enhancement that we can try later.
> 
> AFAIU mprotect() is the only one who modifies the pte using the mmap write
> lock.  NUMA balancing is also using read mmap lock when changing pte
> protections, while my understanding is mprotect() used write lock only because
> it manipulates the address space itself (aka. vma layout) rather than modifying
> the ptes, so it needs to.

You are correct about NUMA balancing in general. Yet in practice it is not
an issue in our “use-case” since NUMA balancing preserves the write-bit.

> At the pte level, it seems always to be the pgtable lock that serializes things.
> 
> So it's perfectly legal to me for e.g. a driver to modify ptes with the read
> lock of mmap_sem, unless I'm severely mistaken.. as long as the pgtable lock is
> taken when doing so.
> 
> If there's a driver that manipulated the ptes, changed the content of the page,
> recover the ptes to origin, and all these happen right after wp_page_copy()
> unlocked the pgtable lock but before wp_page_copy() retakes the same lock
> again, we may face the same issue finding that the page got copied contains
> corrupted data at last.  While I don't know what to blame on the driver either
> because it seems to be exactly following the rules.

The driver would have to do so without flushing the TLB. Having said that,
the driver could have used inc_tlb_flush_pending() and batch flushes.

> 
> I believe changing into write lock would solve the race here because tlb
> flushing would be guaranteed along the way, but I'm just a bit worried it's not
> the best way to go..

It might be too big of a hammer. But the question that comes to my mind is,
if it is ok to change the PTEs without mmap_lock held for write, why
wouldn’t mmap_write_downgrade() be executed before mprotect_fixup() (so
mprotect change of PTE would not be done with the write-lock)? If you did
so, you would have the same problem as the one we encountered (concurrent
protect-unprotect allow concurrent cow-#PF copying the wrong data).

So as an alternative solution, I can do copying under the PTL after
flushing, which seems to solve the problem. First copying (without a lock)
and then comparing seems to me as suboptimal - I do not think the benefit
(if there is one) of shortening the time in which the lock is taken - worth
the additional compare (and the complexity with special pages).

There are 2 problems in doing so:

1. I think that copy_user_highpage() and __copy_from_user_inatomic() can be
called while holding the PTL, but I am not sure.

2. For special pages we would need 2 TLB flushes: one to ensure the
write-bit is cleared, and a second one after we clear the PTE. We
can limit ourselves to soft-dirty/UFFD VMAs, but if we have your
hypothetical driver, this would not be good enough.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-21 22:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-19  4:30 [PATCH] mm/userfaultfd: fix memory corruption due to writeprotect Nadav Amit
2020-12-19 19:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-19 21:34   ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-19 22:06     ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-20  2:20       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21  4:36         ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21  5:12           ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21  5:25             ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21  5:39               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21  7:29                 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 20:34       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-22 20:58         ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 21:34           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-20  2:01     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-20  2:49       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-20  5:08         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-21 18:03           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 18:22             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-20  6:05     ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-20  8:06       ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-20  9:54         ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21  3:33           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21  4:44             ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 17:27         ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 18:31           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 19:16             ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 19:55               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 20:21                 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 20:25                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 20:23                 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 20:26                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 21:24                     ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 21:49                       ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 22:30                         ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 22:55                           ` Nadav Amit [this message]
2020-12-21 23:30                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 23:46                               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 19:44                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 20:19                               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 21:17                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 23:12                           ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 23:33                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22  0:00                               ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22  0:11                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22  0:24                                   ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 23:22                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22  3:19                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-22  4:16                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22 20:19                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-05 15:37                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-05 18:03                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-12 16:20                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-12 11:43                                   ` Vinayak Menon
2021-01-12 15:47                                     ` Laurent Dufour
2021-01-12 16:57                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-12 19:02                                         ` Laurent Dufour
2021-01-12 19:15                                           ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 19:56                                             ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-12 20:38                                               ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 20:49                                                 ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-12 21:43                                                 ` Will Deacon
2021-01-12 22:29                                                   ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 22:46                                                     ` Will Deacon
2021-01-13  0:31                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-17  4:41                                                   ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-17  7:32                                                     ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-17  9:16                                                       ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-17 10:13                                                         ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-17 19:25                                                           ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-18  2:49                                                             ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22  9:38                               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 19:31                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 20:15                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-12-22 20:26                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 21:14                                 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 22:02                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 23:39                                     ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 23:50                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23  0:01                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23  0:23                                           ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23  2:17                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23  9:44                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23 10:06                                             ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 16:24                                               ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23 18:51                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 18:55                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 19:12                                                 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 19:32                                                   ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23  0:20                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23  2:56                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23  3:36                                         ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 15:52                                           ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23 21:07                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 21:39                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 22:29                                             ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 23:04                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24  1:21                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-24  2:00                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24  3:09                                                   ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24  3:30                                                     ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24  3:34                                                     ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-24  4:01                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24  5:18                                                         ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24 18:49                                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 19:16                                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24  4:37                                                       ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24  3:31                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 23:39                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-24  1:01                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 21:14                                 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 12:40                       ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 18:30                         ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 19:20                           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 16:23                             ` Will Deacon
2020-12-23 19:04                               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 22:05                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 22:45                           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 23:55                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 21:55                   ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 23:13                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 19:53             ` Peter Xu

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