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From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
To: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Laurent Dufour <ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vinayak Menon <vinmenon@codeaurora.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	surenb@google.com, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/userfaultfd: fix memory corruption due to writeprotect
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 12:25:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YASPEYs0QVI88xfM@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1A664155-462A-451D-A21E-D749A0ADBD09@gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 02:13:43AM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote:
> > On Jan 17, 2021, at 1:16 AM, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 11:32:22PM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote:
> >>> On Jan 16, 2021, at 8:41 PM, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 09:43:38PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 12:38:34PM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:56 AM, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 11:15:43AM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote:
> >>>>>>> I will send an RFC soon for per-table deferred TLB flushes tracking.
> >>>>>>> The basic idea is to save a generation in the page-struct that tracks
> >>>>>>> when deferred PTE change took place, and track whenever a TLB flush
> >>>>>>> completed. In addition, other users - such as mprotect - would use
> >>>>>>> the tlb_gather interface.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Unfortunately, due to limited space in page-struct this would only
> >>>>>>> be possible for 64-bit (and my implementation is only for x86-64).
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I don't want to discourage you but I don't think this would end up
> >>>>>> well. PPC doesn't necessarily follow one-page-struct-per-table rule,
> >>>>>> and I've run into problems with this before while trying to do
> >>>>>> something similar.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Discourage, discourage. Better now than later.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> It will be relatively easy to extend the scheme to be per-VMA instead of
> >>>>> per-table for architectures that prefer it this way. It does require
> >>>>> TLB-generation tracking though, which Andy only implemented for x86, so I
> >>>>> will focus on x86-64 right now.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Can you remind me of what we're missing on arm64 in this area, please? I'm
> >>>> happy to help get this up and running once you have something I can build
> >>>> on.
> >>> 
> >>> I noticed arm/arm64 don't support ARCH_WANT_BATCHED_UNMAP_TLB_FLUSH.
> >>> Would it be something worth pursuing? Arm has been using mm_cpumask,
> >>> so it might not be too difficult I guess?
> >> 
> >> [ +Mel Gorman who implemented ARCH_WANT_BATCHED_UNMAP_TLB_FLUSH ]
> >> 
> >> IIUC, there are at least two bugs in x86 implementation.
> >> 
> >> First, there is a missing memory barrier in tlbbatch_add_mm() between
> >> inc_mm_tlb_gen() and the read of mm_cpumask().
> > 
> > In arch_tlbbatch_add_mm()? inc_mm_tlb_gen() has builtin barrier as its
> > comment says -- atomic update ops that return values are also full
> > memory barriers.
> 
> Yes, you are correct.
> 
> > 
> >> Second, try_to_unmap_flush() clears flush_required after flushing. Another
> >> thread can call set_tlb_ubc_flush_pending() after the flush and before
> >> flush_required is cleared, and the indication that a TLB flush is pending
> >> can be lost.
> > 
> > This isn't a problem either because flush_required is per thread.
> 
> Sorry, I meant mm->tlb_flush_batched . It is not per-thread.
> flush_tlb_batched_pending() clears it after flush and indications that
> set_tlb_ubc_flush_pending() sets in between can be lost.

Hmm, the PTL argument above flush_tlb_batched_pending() doesn't seem
to hold when USE_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS is set. Do you have a reproducer?
KCSAN might be able to help in this case.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-17 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-19  4:30 [PATCH] mm/userfaultfd: fix memory corruption due to writeprotect Nadav Amit
2020-12-19 19:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-19 21:34   ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-19 22:06     ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-20  2:20       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21  4:36         ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21  5:12           ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21  5:25             ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21  5:39               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21  7:29                 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 20:34       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-22 20:58         ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 21:34           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-20  2:01     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-20  2:49       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-20  5:08         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-21 18:03           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 18:22             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-20  6:05     ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-20  8:06       ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-20  9:54         ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21  3:33           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21  4:44             ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 17:27         ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 18:31           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 19:16             ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 19:55               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 20:21                 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 20:25                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 20:23                 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 20:26                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 21:24                     ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 21:49                       ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 22:30                         ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 22:55                           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 23:30                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 23:46                               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 19:44                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 20:19                               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 21:17                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 23:12                           ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 23:33                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22  0:00                               ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22  0:11                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22  0:24                                   ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 23:22                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22  3:19                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-22  4:16                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22 20:19                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-05 15:37                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-05 18:03                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-12 16:20                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-12 11:43                                   ` Vinayak Menon
2021-01-12 15:47                                     ` Laurent Dufour
2021-01-12 16:57                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-12 19:02                                         ` Laurent Dufour
2021-01-12 19:15                                           ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 19:56                                             ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-12 20:38                                               ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 20:49                                                 ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-12 21:43                                                 ` Will Deacon
2021-01-12 22:29                                                   ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 22:46                                                     ` Will Deacon
2021-01-13  0:31                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-17  4:41                                                   ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-17  7:32                                                     ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-17  9:16                                                       ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-17 10:13                                                         ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-17 19:25                                                           ` Yu Zhao [this message]
2021-01-18  2:49                                                             ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22  9:38                               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 19:31                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 20:15                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-12-22 20:26                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 21:14                                 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 22:02                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 23:39                                     ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 23:50                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23  0:01                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23  0:23                                           ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23  2:17                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23  9:44                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23 10:06                                             ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 16:24                                               ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23 18:51                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 18:55                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 19:12                                                 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 19:32                                                   ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23  0:20                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23  2:56                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23  3:36                                         ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 15:52                                           ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23 21:07                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 21:39                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 22:29                                             ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 23:04                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24  1:21                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-24  2:00                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24  3:09                                                   ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24  3:30                                                     ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24  3:34                                                     ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-24  4:01                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24  5:18                                                         ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24 18:49                                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 19:16                                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24  4:37                                                       ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24  3:31                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 23:39                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-24  1:01                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 21:14                                 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 12:40                       ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 18:30                         ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 19:20                           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 16:23                             ` Will Deacon
2020-12-23 19:04                               ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 22:05                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 22:45                           ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 23:55                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 21:55                   ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 23:13                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 19:53             ` Peter Xu

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