From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/userfaultfd: fix memory corruption due to writeprotect
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 12:25:07 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wjUST1qd9Q668rwSzwOLQxTaAC1oUd7pPQBSj2s6PkqAw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X+EDslLVp9yRRru6@google.com>
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 12:21 PM Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:
>
> Well, unfortunately we have places that use optimizations like
>
> inc_tlb_flush_pending()
> lock page table
> pte_wrprotect
> flush_tlb_range()
> dec_tlb_flush_pending()
>
> which complicate things.
My point is, none of that matters.
Because the software side that does the actual page table
modifications do not depend on the TLB at all.
They depend on the page table lock, and the pte in memory.
So the "pending flush" simply shoudln't be an issue. It's about the
actual hardware usage.
But what DOES matter for the software accesses is that you can't
modify protections without holding the proper lock.
And userfaultfd seems to do exactly that, breaking the whole "load pte
early, then check that it didn't change".
(Which we do in other places too, not just COW - it's basically _the_
pattern for page table updates).
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-21 20:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-19 4:30 [PATCH] mm/userfaultfd: fix memory corruption due to writeprotect Nadav Amit
2020-12-19 19:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-19 21:34 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-19 22:06 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-20 2:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 4:36 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 5:12 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 5:25 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 5:39 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 7:29 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 20:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-22 20:58 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 21:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-20 2:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-20 2:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-20 5:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-21 18:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 18:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-20 6:05 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-20 8:06 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-20 9:54 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 3:33 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 4:44 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 17:27 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 18:31 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 19:16 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 19:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 20:21 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 20:25 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2020-12-21 20:23 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 20:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 21:24 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 21:49 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 22:30 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 22:55 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 23:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 23:46 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 19:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 20:19 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 21:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 23:12 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 23:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22 0:00 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 0:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22 0:24 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 23:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22 3:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-22 4:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22 20:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-05 15:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-05 18:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-12 16:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-12 11:43 ` Vinayak Menon
2021-01-12 15:47 ` Laurent Dufour
2021-01-12 16:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-12 19:02 ` Laurent Dufour
2021-01-12 19:15 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 19:56 ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-12 20:38 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 20:49 ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-12 21:43 ` Will Deacon
2021-01-12 22:29 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 22:46 ` Will Deacon
2021-01-13 0:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-17 4:41 ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-17 7:32 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-17 9:16 ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-17 10:13 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-17 19:25 ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-18 2:49 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 9:38 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 19:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 20:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-12-22 20:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 21:14 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 22:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 23:39 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 23:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23 0:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23 0:23 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 2:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 9:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23 10:06 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 16:24 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23 18:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 18:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 19:12 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 19:32 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23 0:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23 2:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 3:36 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 15:52 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23 21:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 21:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 22:29 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 23:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 1:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-24 2:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 3:09 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24 3:30 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24 3:34 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-24 4:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 5:18 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24 18:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 19:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 4:37 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24 3:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 23:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-24 1:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 21:14 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 12:40 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 18:30 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 19:20 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 16:23 ` Will Deacon
2020-12-23 19:04 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 22:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 22:45 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 23:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 21:55 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 23:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 19:53 ` Peter Xu
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