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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Joe Konno <joe.konno@linux.intel.com>,
	"linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>,
	Jeremy Kerr <jk@ozlabs.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@google.com>,
	Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	James Bottomley <james.bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] fs/efivarfs: restrict inode permissions
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 18:16:19 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFwKsa6bq5SUD6wKv8znGcxqjLCPh33a3DkbnUkSfd68Yw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F7B37DE1B@ORSMSX110.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 5:05 PM, Luck, Tony <tony.luck@intel.com> wrote:
>>> EFI[1] stinks. Reading any file in /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/ generates
>>> 4 (yes FOUR!) SMIs.
>
>> Is that actualkly the normal implementation?
>
> I don't know if there are other implementations. This is what I see on my
> lab system.

Ok. I'm not a huge fan of EFI. Over-designed to the hilt. Happily at
least the loadable drivers are a thing of the past.

Do we have a list of things normal users care about? Because one thing
that would solve it is caching of the values. We don't want to do that
in general, but maybe we could just do it for the subset that we think
are "user accessible".

Although maybe just that "rate limit" thing would be simplest.

I don't want to break existing users, although it's not entirely clear
to me if there are any real use cases that matter to users. If tpmtotp
is the main case, maybe that can be changed to work around it and just
cache a value or something?

So I could imagine just applying Joe's / Andy's patch to see if
anybody even notices. But if somebody does, we'd have to go to the
alternatives anyway.

                Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-21  2:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-15 18:22 [PATCH 0/2] efivars: reading variables can generate SMIs Joe Konno
2018-02-15 18:22 ` [PATCH 1/2] fs/efivarfs: restrict inode permissions Joe Konno
2018-02-20 19:18   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-02-20 21:18     ` Luck, Tony
2018-02-20 21:22       ` Matthew Garrett
2018-02-20 21:32         ` Luck, Tony
2018-02-20 21:35           ` Matthew Garrett
2018-02-20 22:01       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-20 23:30         ` Luck, Tony
2018-02-20 23:39           ` Matthew Garrett
2018-02-20 23:50             ` Luck, Tony
2018-02-21  0:49           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-21  1:05             ` Luck, Tony
2018-02-21  2:16               ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2018-02-21  9:03                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-02-21 18:02                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-21 18:21                     ` Andi Kleen
2018-02-21 19:47                       ` Luck, Tony
2018-02-21 19:50                         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-21 19:58                           ` Luck, Tony
2018-02-21 20:40                             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-22  1:45                               ` [PATCH] efivarfs: Limit the rate for non-root to read files Luck, Tony
2018-02-22  1:58                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-22  5:34                                   ` Luck, Tony
2018-02-22 17:10                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                     ` <CA+55aFy0hRexJkLbN7t31LjfGr4Ae0W5g6sBMqHHJi8aYuGKeA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                       ` <612E894E-62C8-4155-AED8-D53702EDC8DC@intel.com>
     [not found]                                         ` <CA+55aFxeBaTbwvbWqx1MKYjKKzLUs=1O43Bx2=JaO8qrnY-8HA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-02-22 17:15                                           ` [PATCH v2] " Luck, Tony
2018-02-22 17:39                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-22 17:54                                               ` Luck, Tony
2018-02-22 18:07                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-22 18:08                                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-02-23 20:34                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-02-23 19:47                                         ` [PATCH] " Peter Jones
2018-02-21 19:52                       ` [PATCH 1/2] fs/efivarfs: restrict inode permissions Linus Torvalds
2018-02-24 20:06                   ` Alan Cox
2018-02-25 10:56                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-02-21  0:49         ` Peter Jones
2018-02-20 23:19     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-02-15 18:22 ` [PATCH 2/2] efi: restrict top-level attribute permissions Joe Konno
2018-02-16 10:41 ` [PATCH 0/2] efivars: reading variables can generate SMIs Ard Biesheuvel
2018-02-16 10:55   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-02-16 10:58     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-02-16 11:08       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-02-16 11:18         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-02-16 18:48           ` Joe Konno
2018-02-16 18:58             ` Borislav Petkov
2018-02-16 19:22             ` Peter Jones
2018-02-16 19:31               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-02-16 19:51                 ` Matthew Garrett
2018-02-16 19:32               ` Luck, Tony
2018-02-16 19:54                 ` Peter Jones
2018-02-16 20:51   ` James Bottomley
2018-02-16 21:09     ` Luck, Tony
2018-02-16 21:45       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-02-16 21:58         ` Matthew Garrett
2018-02-16 22:02           ` Luck, Tony
2018-02-16 22:03             ` Matthew Garrett
2018-02-17 18:12               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-02-16 22:05       ` Peter Jones
2018-02-17  9:36         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-02-17 16:17           ` Andi Kleen

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