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From: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
To: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	linux-usb <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:GPIO SUBSYSTEM" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <bgolaszewski@baylibre.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] USB: serial: ftdi_sio: Log the CBUS GPIO validity
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 10:35:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRpkda+JJ9ZMmwPcA_Rc0tgqKQw+VTgfVyp8PsZG55VM82uzg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X85IC5NvcWikXfZY@localhost>

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 4:19 PM Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 03:00:37PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > On 2020-12-07 14:29, Johan Hovold wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 04:47:38PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>
> > >> +  if (!bitmap_full(valid_mask, ngpios))
> > >> +          dev_warn_once(&port->dev, "Consider using a tool such as ftx-prog
> > >> to enable GPIOs if required\n");
> > >> +
> > >
> > > And again, this is not something that belongs in the logs of just about
> > > every system with an attached ftdi device.
> >
> > Fine by me, this patch can be dropped without issue. After all,
> > I now know how to deal with these chips.
> >
> > > While not possible to combine with the valid_mask approach, this is
> > > something which we could otherwise add to the request() callback for
> > > the
> > > first request that fails due to the mux configuration.
> >
> > That was Linus' initial suggestion. But I think a consistent user
> > API is more important than free advise in the kernel log.
>
> I tend to agree. So since your valid-mask approach clearly has some
> merit in that it marks the lines in use when using the new cdev
> interface, perhaps we should stick with that.

It sounds like we agree that this patch sans prints is acceptable.

It makes things better so let's go with that.

The problem for the user is that the line looks to be
"used by the kernel" (true in some sense) but they have no
idea what to do about it and that the ftx-prog will solve
their hacking problem.

It's a matter of taste admittedly, I have noticed that some
subsystem maintainers are "dmesg minimalists" and want
as little as possible in dmesg while some are "dmesg maximalists"
and want as much messages and help as possible for
users in dmesg. I tend toward the latter but it's not like
I don't see the beauty and feeling of control that comes
with a clean dmesg.

My usual argument is that different loglevels exist for a
reason and those who don't want advice can just filter out
anything but errors or worse. But it seems they don't really wanna
hear that because on their pet systems KERN_INFO it is on
by default so it bothers them.

Yours,
Linus Walleij

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-09  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-04 16:47 [PATCH 0/4] USB: ftdio_sio: GPIO validity fixes Marc Zyngier
2020-12-04 16:47 ` [PATCH 1/4] gpiolib: cdev: Flag invalid GPIOs as used Marc Zyngier
2020-12-07 14:16   ` Johan Hovold
2020-12-07 14:59     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-12-09  9:25   ` Linus Walleij
2020-12-04 16:47 ` [PATCH 2/4] USB: serial: ftdi_sio: Report the valid GPIO lines to gpiolib Marc Zyngier
2020-12-09  9:28   ` Linus Walleij
2020-12-04 16:47 ` [PATCH 3/4] USB: serial: ftdi_sio: Log the CBUS GPIO validity Marc Zyngier
2020-12-07 14:29   ` Johan Hovold
2020-12-07 15:00     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-12-07 15:19       ` Johan Hovold
2020-12-09  9:35         ` Linus Walleij [this message]
2020-12-09 17:05           ` Johan Hovold
2020-12-09 17:39             ` Johan Hovold
2020-12-04 16:47 ` [PATCH 4/4] USB: serial: ftdi_sio: Drop GPIO line checking dead code Marc Zyngier
2020-12-07  9:55 ` [PATCH 0/4] USB: ftdio_sio: GPIO validity fixes Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-07 14:01 ` Johan Hovold
2020-12-07 14:41   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-12-07 15:08     ` Johan Hovold
2020-12-07 15:34       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-12-07 15:49         ` Johan Hovold
2020-12-09  9:20           ` Linus Walleij
2020-12-09 15:42             ` Johan Hovold

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