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* [PATCH 1/8] Replace memset() with memzero_explicit()
@ 2021-11-16 11:25 Sandy Harris
  2021-11-16 11:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
  2021-11-16 11:50 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Sandy Harris @ 2021-11-16 11:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: LKML, Linux Crypto Mailing List, David S. Miller, Herbert Xu,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman

Replace memset(address,0,bytes) which may be optimised away
with memzero_explicit(address,bytes) which resists
such optimisation

---
 crypto/des_generic.c | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/crypto/des_generic.c b/crypto/des_generic.c
index c85354a5e94c..105a32e7afea 100644
--- a/crypto/des_generic.c
+++ b/crypto/des_generic.c
@@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ static int des_setkey(struct crypto_tfm *tfm, const u8 *key,
             err = 0;
     }
     if (err)
-        memset(dctx, 0, sizeof(*dctx));
+        memzero_explicit(dctx, sizeof(*dctx));
     return err;
 }

@@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ static int des3_ede_setkey(struct crypto_tfm *tfm,
const u8 *key,
             err = 0;
     }
     if (err)
-        memset(dctx, 0, sizeof(*dctx));
+        memzero_explicit(dctx, sizeof(*dctx));
     return err;
 }

--

^ permalink raw reply related	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH 1/8] Replace memset() with memzero_explicit()
  2021-11-16 11:25 [PATCH 1/8] Replace memset() with memzero_explicit() Sandy Harris
@ 2021-11-16 11:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
  2021-11-16 11:50 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Greg Kroah-Hartman @ 2021-11-16 11:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sandy Harris; +Cc: LKML, Linux Crypto Mailing List, David S. Miller, Herbert Xu

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 07:25:22PM +0800, Sandy Harris wrote:
> Replace memset(address,0,bytes) which may be optimised away
> with memzero_explicit(address,bytes) which resists
> such optimisation
> 
> ---
>  crypto/des_generic.c | 4 ++--
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/crypto/des_generic.c b/crypto/des_generic.c
> index c85354a5e94c..105a32e7afea 100644
> --- a/crypto/des_generic.c
> +++ b/crypto/des_generic.c
> @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ static int des_setkey(struct crypto_tfm *tfm, const u8 *key,
>              err = 0;
>      }
>      if (err)
> -        memset(dctx, 0, sizeof(*dctx));
> +        memzero_explicit(dctx, sizeof(*dctx));
>      return err;
>  }
> 
> @@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ static int des3_ede_setkey(struct crypto_tfm *tfm,
> const u8 *key,
>              err = 0;
>      }
>      if (err)
> -        memset(dctx, 0, sizeof(*dctx));
> +        memzero_explicit(dctx, sizeof(*dctx));
>      return err;
>  }
> 
> --

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* Re: [PATCH 1/8] Replace memset() with memzero_explicit()
  2021-11-16 11:25 [PATCH 1/8] Replace memset() with memzero_explicit() Sandy Harris
  2021-11-16 11:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
@ 2021-11-16 11:50 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
  2021-11-16 12:52   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
  2021-11-17  3:08   ` Sandy Harris
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Greg Kroah-Hartman @ 2021-11-16 11:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sandy Harris; +Cc: LKML, Linux Crypto Mailing List, David S. Miller, Herbert Xu

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 07:25:22PM +0800, Sandy Harris wrote:
> Replace memset(address,0,bytes) which may be optimised away
> with memzero_explicit(address,bytes) which resists
> such optimisation
> 
> ---
>  crypto/des_generic.c | 4 ++--
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/crypto/des_generic.c b/crypto/des_generic.c
> index c85354a5e94c..105a32e7afea 100644
> --- a/crypto/des_generic.c
> +++ b/crypto/des_generic.c
> @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ static int des_setkey(struct crypto_tfm *tfm, const u8 *key,
>              err = 0;
>      }
>      if (err)
> -        memset(dctx, 0, sizeof(*dctx));
> +        memzero_explicit(dctx, sizeof(*dctx));
>      return err;
>  }
> 
> @@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ static int des3_ede_setkey(struct crypto_tfm *tfm,
> const u8 *key,
>              err = 0;
>      }
>      if (err)
> -        memset(dctx, 0, sizeof(*dctx));
> +        memzero_explicit(dctx, sizeof(*dctx));
>      return err;
>  }
> 

Have you looked at the output of the compiler to see if this really is
needed or not?

And what exactly are you zeroing out that could be read afterward
somehow?

thanks,

greg k-h

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH 1/8] Replace memset() with memzero_explicit()
  2021-11-16 11:50 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
@ 2021-11-16 12:52   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
  2021-11-17  3:08   ` Sandy Harris
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Greg Kroah-Hartman @ 2021-11-16 12:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sandy Harris; +Cc: LKML, Linux Crypto Mailing List, David S. Miller, Herbert Xu

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 12:50:58PM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 07:25:22PM +0800, Sandy Harris wrote:
> > Replace memset(address,0,bytes) which may be optimised away
> > with memzero_explicit(address,bytes) which resists
> > such optimisation
> > 
> > ---
> >  crypto/des_generic.c | 4 ++--
> >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/crypto/des_generic.c b/crypto/des_generic.c
> > index c85354a5e94c..105a32e7afea 100644
> > --- a/crypto/des_generic.c
> > +++ b/crypto/des_generic.c
> > @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ static int des_setkey(struct crypto_tfm *tfm, const u8 *key,
> >              err = 0;
> >      }
> >      if (err)
> > -        memset(dctx, 0, sizeof(*dctx));
> > +        memzero_explicit(dctx, sizeof(*dctx));
> >      return err;
> >  }
> > 
> > @@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ static int des3_ede_setkey(struct crypto_tfm *tfm,
> > const u8 *key,
> >              err = 0;
> >      }
> >      if (err)
> > -        memset(dctx, 0, sizeof(*dctx));
> > +        memzero_explicit(dctx, sizeof(*dctx));
> >      return err;
> >  }
> > 
> 
> Have you looked at the output of the compiler to see if this really is
> needed or not?

Oh wait, that's not a stack variable, how would this be optimized away
at all?  If it is, that's a HUGE compiler bug.

Is that really happening here?

thanks,

greg k-h

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* Re: [PATCH 1/8] Replace memset() with memzero_explicit()
  2021-11-16 11:50 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
  2021-11-16 12:52   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
@ 2021-11-17  3:08   ` Sandy Harris
  2021-11-17  6:01     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Sandy Harris @ 2021-11-17  3:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Greg Kroah-Hartman
  Cc: LKML, Linux Crypto Mailing List, David S. Miller, Herbert Xu

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 7:51 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman
<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> Have you looked at the output of the compiler to see if this really is
> needed or not?

No. To do that right you'd need to look at (at least) gcc & clang,
multiple architectures (cross-compiled & native) & various levels
of optimisation. I just looked at the C code.

> And what exactly are you zeroing out that could be read afterward
> somehow?

Whatever it is, the person who wrote the code thought it was
worth zeroing out with memset(). The only question is whether
it is safer to use memzero_explicit().

Granted in many cases this will not matter unless the kernel
is compiled at some optimisation level that does cross-function
analysis so it might be "smart" enough to optimise out the
memset(). Also granted it does not matter unless an attacker
can look inside the running kernel & if  he or she has that
level of privilege, then you have much else to worry about.

Still, it seemed safer to me to use memzero_explicit() in
these cases.

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* Re: [PATCH 1/8] Replace memset() with memzero_explicit()
  2021-11-17  3:08   ` Sandy Harris
@ 2021-11-17  6:01     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Greg Kroah-Hartman @ 2021-11-17  6:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sandy Harris; +Cc: LKML, Linux Crypto Mailing List, David S. Miller, Herbert Xu

On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 11:08:45AM +0800, Sandy Harris wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 7:51 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman
> <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> 
> > Have you looked at the output of the compiler to see if this really is
> > needed or not?
> 
> No. To do that right you'd need to look at (at least) gcc & clang,
> multiple architectures (cross-compiled & native) & various levels
> of optimisation. I just looked at the C code.

You should at least look, right?

> > And what exactly are you zeroing out that could be read afterward
> > somehow?
> 
> Whatever it is, the person who wrote the code thought it was
> worth zeroing out with memset(). The only question is whether
> it is safer to use memzero_explicit().
> 
> Granted in many cases this will not matter unless the kernel
> is compiled at some optimisation level that does cross-function
> analysis so it might be "smart" enough to optimise out the
> memset(). Also granted it does not matter unless an attacker
> can look inside the running kernel & if  he or she has that
> level of privilege, then you have much else to worry about.

As Ard said, there should not be any such "optimization" as this is not
something that any non-broken compiler should do.

> Still, it seemed safer to me to use memzero_explicit() in
> these cases.

I do not see why these cases are any different than any other call to
memset() is, because this data is not on the stack so nothing should be
removed by the compiler, right?

thanks,

greg k-h

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