From: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
To: yu-cheng.yu@intel.com
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 12/24] x86/mm: Modify ptep_set_wrprotect and pmdp_set_wrprotect for _PAGE_DIRTY_SW
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 23:01:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG48ez0mkr95_TbLQnDGuGUd6G+eJVLZ-fEjDkwA6dSrm+9tLw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1535662366.28781.6.camel@intel.com>
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 10:57 PM Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2018-08-30 at 22:44 +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 10:25 PM Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com>
> > wrote:
> ...
> > > In the flow you described, if C writes to the overflow page before
> > > B
> > > gets in with a 'call', the return address is still correct for
> > > B. To
> > > make an attack, C needs to write again before the TLB flush. I
> > > agree
> > > that is possible.
> > >
> > > Assume we have a guard page, can someone in the short window do
> > > recursive calls in B, move ssp to the end of the guard page, and
> > > trigger the same again? He can simply take the incssp route.
> > I don't understand what you're saying. If the shadow stack is
> > between
> > guard pages, you should never be able to move SSP past that area's
> > guard pages without an appropriate shadow stack token (not even with
> > INCSSP, since that has a maximum range of PAGE_SIZE/2), and
> > therefore,
> > it shouldn't matter whether memory outside that range is incorrectly
> > marked as shadow stack. Am I missing something?
>
> INCSSP has a range of 256, but we can do multiple of that.
> But I realize the key is not to have the transient SHSTK page at all.
> The guard page is !pte_write() and even we have flaws in
> ptep_set_wrprotect(), there will not be any transient SHSTK pages. I
> will add guard pages to both ends.
>
> Still thinking how to fix ptep_set_wrprotect().
cmpxchg loop? Or is that slow?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-30 21:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-30 14:38 [RFC PATCH v3 00/24] Control Flow Enforcement: Shadow Stack Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/24] x86/cpufeatures: Add CPUIDs for Control-flow Enforcement Technology (CET) Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/24] x86/fpu/xstate: Change some names to separate XSAVES system and user states Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/24] x86/fpu/xstate: Enable XSAVES system states Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/24] x86/fpu/xstate: Add XSAVES system states for shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/24] Documentation/x86: Add CET description Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 20:39 ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-30 22:49 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-09-14 21:17 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-09-03 2:56 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/24] x86/cet: Control protection exception handler Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-31 15:01 ` Jann Horn
2018-08-31 16:20 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/24] x86/cet/shstk: Add Kconfig option for user-mode shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/24] mm: Introduce VM_SHSTK for shadow stack memory Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/24] x86/mm: Change _PAGE_DIRTY to _PAGE_DIRTY_HW Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/24] x86/mm: Introduce _PAGE_DIRTY_SW Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/24] drm/i915/gvt: Update _PAGE_DIRTY to _PAGE_DIRTY_BITS Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/24] x86/mm: Modify ptep_set_wrprotect and pmdp_set_wrprotect for _PAGE_DIRTY_SW Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 15:49 ` Jann Horn
2018-08-30 16:02 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 16:08 ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-30 16:23 ` Jann Horn
2018-08-30 17:19 ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-30 17:26 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 17:33 ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-30 17:54 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 17:59 ` Jann Horn
2018-08-30 20:21 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 20:44 ` Jann Horn
2018-08-30 20:52 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 21:01 ` Jann Horn [this message]
2018-08-30 21:47 ` Jann Horn
2018-08-31 9:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-08-31 14:33 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-31 14:47 ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-31 15:48 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-31 15:58 ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-31 16:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-14 20:39 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-09-14 20:46 ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-14 21:08 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-09-14 21:33 ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-31 1:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-30 17:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-30 18:55 ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-31 17:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-31 17:52 ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-30 19:59 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-08-30 20:23 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-31 16:29 ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 13/24] x86/mm: Shadow stack page fault error checking Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 14/24] mm: Handle shadow stack page fault Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 15/24] mm: Handle THP/HugeTLB " Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 16/24] mm: Update can_follow_write_pte/pmd for shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 17/24] mm: Introduce do_mmap_locked() Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 18/24] x86/cet/shstk: User-mode shadow stack support Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 16:10 ` Jann Horn
2018-08-30 16:20 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 19/24] x86/cet/shstk: Introduce WRUSS instruction Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 15:39 ` Jann Horn
2018-08-30 15:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-30 16:22 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-31 21:49 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-31 22:16 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-14 20:46 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:39 ` [RFC PATCH v3 20/24] x86/cet/shstk: Signal handling for shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:39 ` [RFC PATCH v3 21/24] x86/cet/shstk: ELF header parsing of Shadow Stack Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:39 ` [RFC PATCH v3 22/24] x86/cet/shstk: Handle thread shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:39 ` [RFC PATCH v3 23/24] x86/cet/shstk: Add arch_prctl functions for Shadow Stack Yu-cheng Yu
2018-08-30 14:39 ` [RFC PATCH v3 24/24] x86/cet/shstk: Add Shadow Stack instructions to opcode map Yu-cheng Yu
2018-09-02 8:13 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/24] Control Flow Enforcement: Shadow Stack Balbir Singh
2018-09-04 14:47 ` Yu-cheng Yu
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