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From: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
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Subject: Re: [net-next v1 08/16] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 06:58:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHS8izNHtemjjkMf43grCHP1RZ=2UFiMtgea0M6+PaAgC=DDMQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231212143942.GF3014157@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 6:39 AM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 06:26:51AM -0800, Mina Almasry wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 4:25 AM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 04:52:39PM -0800, Mina Almasry wrote:
> > >
> > > > +static inline struct page_pool_iov *page_to_page_pool_iov(struct page *page)
> > > > +{
> > > > +     if (page_is_page_pool_iov(page))
> > > > +             return (struct page_pool_iov *)((unsigned long)page & ~PP_IOV);
> > > > +
> > > > +     DEBUG_NET_WARN_ON_ONCE(true);
> > > > +     return NULL;
> > > > +}
> > >
> > > We already asked not to do this, please do not allocate weird things
> > > can call them 'struct page' when they are not. It undermines the
> > > maintainability of the mm to have things mis-typed like
> > > this. Introduce a new type for your thing so the compiler can check it
> > > properly.
> > >
> >
> > There is a new type introduced, it's the page_pool_iov. We set the LSB
> > on page_pool_iov* and cast it to page* only to avoid the churn of
> > renaming page* to page_pool_iov* in the page_pool and all the net
> > drivers using it. Is that not a reasonable compromise in your opinion?
> > Since the LSB is set on the resulting page pointers, they are not
> > actually usuable as pages, and are never passed to mm APIs per your
> > requirement.
>
> There were two asks, the one you did was to never pass this non-struct
> page memory to the mm, which is great.
>
> The other was to not mistype things, and don't type something as
> struct page when it is, in fact, not.
>
> I fear what you've done is make it so only one driver calls these
> special functions and left the other drivers passing the struct page
> directly to the mm and sort of obfuscating why it is OK based on this
> netdev knowledge of not enabling/using the static branch in the other
> cases.
>

Jason, we set the LSB on page_pool_iov pointers before casting it to
struct page pointers. The resulting pointers are not useable as page
pointers at all.

In order to use the resulting pointers, the driver _must_ use the
special functions that first clear the LSB. It is impossible for the
driver to 'accidentally' use the resulting page pointers with the LSB
set - the kernel would just crash trying to dereference such a
pointer.

The way it works currently is that drivers that support devmem TCP
will declare that support to the net stack, and use the special
functions that clear the LSB and cast the struct back to
page_pool_iov. The drivers that don't support devmem TCP will not
declare support and will get pages allocated from the mm stack from
the page_pool and use them as pages normally.

> Perhaps you can simply avoid this by arranging for this driver to also
> exclusively use some special type to indicate the dual nature of the
> pointer and leave the other drivers as using the struct page version.
>

This is certainly possible, but it requires us to rename all the page
pointers in the page_pool to the new type, and requires the driver
adding devmem TCP support to rename all the page* pointer instances to
the new type. It's possible but it introduces lots of code churn. Is
the LSB + cast not a reasonable compromise here? I feel like the trick
of setting the least significant bit on a pointer to indicate it's
something else has a fair amount of precedent in the kernel.

--
Thanks,
Mina

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-12 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-08  0:52 [net-next v1 00/16] Device Memory TCP Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 01/16] net: page_pool: factor out releasing DMA from releasing the page Mina Almasry
2023-12-10  3:49   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-12-12  8:11   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 02/16] net: page_pool: create hooks for custom page providers Mina Almasry
2023-12-12  8:07   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-12-12 14:47     ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 03/16] queue_api: define queue api Mina Almasry
2023-12-14  1:15   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 04/16] gve: implement " Mina Almasry
2024-03-05 11:45   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 05/16] net: netdev netlink api to bind dma-buf to a net device Mina Almasry
2023-12-14  1:17   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 06/16] netdev: support binding dma-buf to netdevice Mina Almasry
2023-12-08 15:40   ` kernel test robot
2023-12-08 16:02   ` kernel test robot
2023-12-08 17:48   ` David Ahern
2023-12-08 19:22     ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-08 20:32       ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-09 23:29       ` David Ahern
2023-12-11  2:19         ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 07/16] netdev: netdevice devmem allocator Mina Almasry
2023-12-08 17:56   ` David Ahern
2023-12-08 19:27     ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 08/16] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider Mina Almasry
2023-12-08 22:48   ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-12-08 23:25     ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-10  3:03       ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-12-11  2:30         ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-11 20:35           ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-12-14 20:03             ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-19 23:55               ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-12-08 23:05   ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-12-12 12:25   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-12 13:07     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-12 14:26     ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-12 14:39       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-12 14:58         ` Mina Almasry [this message]
2023-12-12 15:08           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-13  1:09             ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-13  2:19               ` David Ahern
2023-12-13  7:49   ` Yinjun Zhang
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 09/16] page_pool: device memory support Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  9:30   ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-12-08 16:05     ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-11  2:04       ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-12-11  2:26         ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-11  4:04           ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-11 11:51             ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-12-11 18:14               ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-12 11:17                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-12-12 14:28                   ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-13 11:48                     ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-12-13  7:52             ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 10/16] page_pool: don't release iov on elevanted refcount Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 11/16] net: support non paged skb frags Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 12/16] net: add support for skbs with unreadable frags Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 13/16] tcp: RX path for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2023-12-08 15:40   ` kernel test robot
2023-12-08 17:55   ` David Ahern
2023-12-08 19:23     ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 14/16] net: add SO_DEVMEM_DONTNEED setsockopt to release RX frags Mina Almasry
2023-12-12 19:08   ` Simon Horman
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 15/16] net: add devmem TCP documentation Mina Almasry
2023-12-12 19:14   ` Simon Horman
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 16/16] selftests: add ncdevmem, netcat for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  1:47 ` [net-next v1 00/16] Device Memory TCP Mina Almasry
2023-12-08 17:57 ` David Ahern
2023-12-08 19:31   ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-10  3:48 ` Shakeel Butt
2023-12-12  5:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-14  6:20 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2023-12-14  6:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-14  6:51     ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-14  6:59       ` Christoph Hellwig

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