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From: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [net-next v1 08/16] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2023 12:03:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHS8izOY9xm=LBEN8sYwEa3aFB4GWDvJVacom3o4mHZPdHzTUg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <661c1bae-d7d3-457e-b545-5f67b9ef4197@gmail.com>

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 12:37 PM Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com> wrote:
...
> >> If you remove the branch, let it fall into ->release and rely
> >> on refcounting there, then the callback could also fix up
> >> release_cnt or ask pp to do it, like in the patch I linked above
> >>
> >
> > Sadly I don't think this is possible due to the reasons I mention in
> > the commit message of that patch. Prematurely releasing ppiov and not
> > having them be candidates for recycling shows me a 4-5x degradation in
> > performance.
>
> I don't think I follow. The concept is to only recycle a buffer (i.e.
> make it available for allocation) when its refs drop to zero, which is
> IMHO the only way it can work, and IIUC what this patchset is doing.
>
> That's also I suggest to do, but through a slightly different path.
> Let's say at some moment there are 2 refs (e.g. 1 for an skb and
> 1 for userspace/xarray).
>
> Say it first puts the skb:
>
> napi_pp_put_page()
>    -> page_pool_return_page()
>      -> mp_ops->release_page()
>         -> need_to_free = put_buf()
>            // not last ref, need_to_free==false,
>            // don't recycle, don't increase release_cnt
>
> Then you put the last ref:
>
> page_pool_iov_put_many()
>    -> page_pool_return_page()
>      -> mp_ops->release_page()
>         -> need_to_free = put_buf()
>            // last ref, need_to_free==true,
>            // recycle and release_cnt++
>
> And that last put can even be recycled right into the
> pp / ptr_ring, in which case it doesn't need to touch
> release_cnt. Does it make sense? I don't see where
> 4-5x degradation would come from
>
>

Sorry for the late reply, I have been working on this locally.

What you're saying makes sense, and I'm no longer sure why I was
seeing a perf degradation without '[net-next v1 10/16] page_pool:
don't release iov on elevanted refcount'. However, even though what
you're saying is technically correct, AFAIU it's actually semantically
wrong. When a page is released by the page_pool, we should call
page_pool_clear_pp_info() and completely disconnect the page from the
pool. If we call release_page() on a page and then the page pool sees
it again in page_pool_return_page(), I think that is considered a bug.
In fact I think what you're proposing is as a result of a bug because
we don't call a page_pool_clear_pp_info() equivalent on releasing
ppiov.

However, I'm reasonably confident I figured out the right thing to do
here. The page_pool uses page->pp_frag_count for its refcounting.
pp_frag_count is a misnomer, it's being renamed to pp_ref_count in
Liang's series[1]). In this series I used a get_page/put_page
equivalent for refcounting. Once I transitioned to using
pp_[frag|ref]_count for refcounting inside the page_pool, the issue
went away, and I no longer need the patch 'page_pool: don't release
iov on elevanted refcount'.

There is an additional upside, since pages and ppiovs are both being
refcounted using pp_[frag|ref]_count, we get some unified handling for
ppiov and we reduce the checks around ppiov. This should be fixed
properly in the next series.

I still need to do some work (~1 week) before I upload the next
version as there is a new requirement from MM that we transition to a
new type and not re-use page*, but I uploaded my changes github with
the refcounting issues resolved in case they're useful to you. Sorry
for the churn:

https://github.com/mina/linux/commits/tcpdevmem-v1.5/

[1] https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/list/?series=809049&state=*

-- 
Thanks,
Mina

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-14 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-08  0:52 [net-next v1 00/16] Device Memory TCP Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 01/16] net: page_pool: factor out releasing DMA from releasing the page Mina Almasry
2023-12-10  3:49   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-12-12  8:11   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 02/16] net: page_pool: create hooks for custom page providers Mina Almasry
2023-12-12  8:07   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2023-12-12 14:47     ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 03/16] queue_api: define queue api Mina Almasry
2023-12-14  1:15   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 04/16] gve: implement " Mina Almasry
2024-03-05 11:45   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 05/16] net: netdev netlink api to bind dma-buf to a net device Mina Almasry
2023-12-14  1:17   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 06/16] netdev: support binding dma-buf to netdevice Mina Almasry
2023-12-08 15:40   ` kernel test robot
2023-12-08 16:02   ` kernel test robot
2023-12-08 17:48   ` David Ahern
2023-12-08 19:22     ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-08 20:32       ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-09 23:29       ` David Ahern
2023-12-11  2:19         ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 07/16] netdev: netdevice devmem allocator Mina Almasry
2023-12-08 17:56   ` David Ahern
2023-12-08 19:27     ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 08/16] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider Mina Almasry
2023-12-08 22:48   ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-12-08 23:25     ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-10  3:03       ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-12-11  2:30         ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-11 20:35           ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-12-14 20:03             ` Mina Almasry [this message]
2023-12-19 23:55               ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-12-08 23:05   ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-12-12 12:25   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-12 13:07     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-12 14:26     ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-12 14:39       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-12 14:58         ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-12 15:08           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-13  1:09             ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-13  2:19               ` David Ahern
2023-12-13  7:49   ` Yinjun Zhang
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 09/16] page_pool: device memory support Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  9:30   ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-12-08 16:05     ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-11  2:04       ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-12-11  2:26         ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-11  4:04           ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-11 11:51             ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-12-11 18:14               ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-12 11:17                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-12-12 14:28                   ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-13 11:48                     ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-12-13  7:52             ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 10/16] page_pool: don't release iov on elevanted refcount Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 11/16] net: support non paged skb frags Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 12/16] net: add support for skbs with unreadable frags Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 13/16] tcp: RX path for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2023-12-08 15:40   ` kernel test robot
2023-12-08 17:55   ` David Ahern
2023-12-08 19:23     ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 14/16] net: add SO_DEVMEM_DONTNEED setsockopt to release RX frags Mina Almasry
2023-12-12 19:08   ` Simon Horman
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 15/16] net: add devmem TCP documentation Mina Almasry
2023-12-12 19:14   ` Simon Horman
2023-12-08  0:52 ` [net-next v1 16/16] selftests: add ncdevmem, netcat for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2023-12-08  1:47 ` [net-next v1 00/16] Device Memory TCP Mina Almasry
2023-12-08 17:57 ` David Ahern
2023-12-08 19:31   ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-10  3:48 ` Shakeel Butt
2023-12-12  5:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-14  6:20 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2023-12-14  6:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-14  6:51     ` Mina Almasry
2023-12-14  6:59       ` Christoph Hellwig

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