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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>
Cc: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/4] x86/uaccess: Use pointer masking to limit uaccess speculation
Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 11:32:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wh-a6B11tH3upLG+-P5_yFPs3PB8tiXO5JKaQjUvhOMYg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2f75c496ac774444b75ff808854b8e5f@AcuMS.aculab.com>

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 1:48 AM David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com> wrote:
>
> This would error requests for address 0 earlier - but I don't
> believe they are ever valid in Linux.
> (Some historic x86 a.out formats did load to address 0.)

Not only loading at address 0 - there are various real reason s why
address 0 might actually be needed.

Anybody who still runs a 32-bit kernel and wants to use vm86 mode, for
example, requires address 0 because that's simply how the hardware
works.

So no. "mask to zero and make zero invalid" is not a proper model.

            Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-05 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-05  3:54 [PATCH v4 0/4] x86/uaccess: Use pointer masking to limit uaccess speculation Josh Poimboeuf
2021-05-05  3:54 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] uaccess: Always inline strn*_user() helper functions Josh Poimboeuf
2021-05-05  3:54 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] uaccess: Fix __user annotations for copy_mc_to_user() Josh Poimboeuf
2021-05-05  3:54 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] x86/uaccess: Use pointer masking to limit uaccess speculation Josh Poimboeuf
2021-05-05  8:48   ` David Laight
2021-05-05 13:19     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-05-05 13:51       ` David Laight
2021-05-05 18:32     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2021-05-06  7:57       ` David Laight
2021-05-05 14:25   ` Mark Rutland
2021-05-05 14:48     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-05-05 14:49     ` David Laight
2021-05-05 15:45       ` Mark Rutland
2021-05-05 16:55   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-06  8:36     ` David Laight
2021-05-06 12:05       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-02 17:11   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-06-02 20:11     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-05-05  3:54 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] x86/nospec: Remove barrier_nospec() Josh Poimboeuf

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